Before you decide, check out Honeywell's new True Steam that should be out in a couple of months. This looks to be a great humidifier.
http://www.hotfreshcool.com/truesteam.html
Has anyone used the Generalaire line of humidifiers?
Before you decide, check out Honeywell's new True Steam that should be out in a couple of months. This looks to be a great humidifier.
http://www.hotfreshcool.com/truesteam.html
Thanks for the information I am looking for feed back on the General product.
I've used the general humidifiers with good results.
Never used the steam humidifiers.
"Correct Installation is the Key"
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What is your TESP?
The steam units are the best on the market. Install the remote humidistat in the room.
Quality and Value Service and Repair
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Quality and Value Service and Repair
We put on in a few months ago, haven't heard any feedback from the homeowner. Our cost was about twice what the Honeywell True Steam is. Maintenance is steep, not sure what Honeywell's is.
We have been using them for about 2 to 3 years I guess.
What do I think I love them , they can produce allot of humidity in a home in a short period of time.
Not every home can use one as you have to have a good water source, 220v readaly available,a rigid place to mount unit that you can get a drain out of and also a way to connect the steam hose to the duct system with out traps in it. and if using there smart humidastat you need to be able to mount the stat in the living space and still be able to get the outdoor sencor on the north side of the home in less then 25' of wiring. (the outdoor sencor can not be exstended or cut ) 25' is 25' and thats it
What do our service tecs say , they would rather work on a simple ole april air 560.We live about 40 mins north of NYC and our water quaility stinks , So our normall maintnence on this system encludes changing the canister and then actually taking apart the drain solinodes to assure they dont glogg from our poor water quaility
What do our customers say (once they past the intial cost) Spectacular turn it down a bit.
after there first season of use, Wow I never thought it would change my electric bill that much (they are costly to run) but it s worth it
Now to the ugly side
First let me say the unit is great, but connect it to a house with poor water quaility (as in old shot pipes in the street or house) and they are trouble some until you get a filter installed to keep the particles out of the system and the problem is when you have that many particles in the water stream and there is a filter there to pick them up ,guess what the filter gloggs often needing replacement. All this is not the fault of the humidifier its the fault of the water quaility and this become a callback .
We now explain on the sales call the need for a quaility water supply to the home, We check to see if the screens are still in the faucets and if not we ask why they are not there, We then explain if we install 20 of these in home we may find the 1 of the 20 home may need a filter installed to protect the unit and that would have to be dealt with at that time
Lastley over my learning curve on these units on the phone with there tecnical support I have found there tecnical support folks to be very good to work with , Nothing is worse then having a problem with a product only to have so large and in charge tecnical support guy on the phone reading out of a manual with a high and mighty condesending aditude telling you the majarity of the problems with there product are caused by improper installs "Now what did I install wrong today" (hey Larry tell us how you really feel) anyways there tecnical support is top notch I would say it rates right up there with the EWC folks
Steam humidifier in general, not just General Steam Humidifiers, require knowledge in the selection and installation process. Location of the humidifier is critical, as they can do significant damage to heat exchangers if located inappropriately. The water to the unit must be totally free from debris. In-line filters can and should be added if the incoming water supply has debris in it. There are minerals in all water that are in suspension in the water. These minerals will precipitate out when the water is heated. These are the same minerals that attack water heaters of all types, leading to tank failure over a period of time. Knowing this, the manufacturers make automatic, timer controlled flush kits for their steam humidifiers. Woe to the company that installs steam humidifiers without an automatic flush kit. You'll spend many hours pulling and cleaning the humidifier if it isn't flushed frequently. What bells and whistles are needed for a particular installation depends on the system they're being attached to. For example, with both the Carrier Infinity and the Bryant Evolution systems, the OAT sensors are mounted at the outdoor unit and the User Interface controls the humidity, even bringing on the system blower to provide more humidity, absent a call for heating. In such a case, all it takes is the 24-volt relay in the humidifier to turn it on/off and the 24V signal comes from the blower control board. However, once properly installed, no matter the manufacturer, steam humidifiers can deliver more humidity to the air than any other method within a timeframe. If you want mold, except on the leakiest homes, a steam humidifier can deliver mold. Knowing what realistic humidity levels can and should be attained in a home are all part of using sophisticated products. If you don't educate yourself to the pros/cons of using it, you may be disappointed.
If YOU want change, YOU have to first change.
If you are waiting for the 'other guy' to change first, just remember, you're the 'other guy's' other guy. To continue to expect real change when you keep acting the same way as always, is folly. Won't happen. Real change will only happen when a majority of the people change the way they vote!
I just happen to see this thread and need to ask a question. I was at a call on Friday to a Honeywell Steam Humidifier. Model #HE420A 1009 installed just last month. The relay inside the unit is humming so bad that it is going up the duct work and driving the homeowner crazy. I went to 2 different supply houses looking for the relay that is inside the unit and they could not help me.
Now the time was 5:00pm and I called back the homeowner and said I was having a problem finding the relay. I get home and go on the internet and find the wiring diagram and it looks like a 24 volt relay DPST. Is there anything unusual about this relay that the supply houses could not help me. Here is the internet page for the model I am looking for
http://store.electronicaircleaners.c...ROD&ProdID=253
Also the wiring manual
http://docs.electronicaircleaners.co...nstruction.pdf
The relay is the one inside the unit. I even tried to mount it on foam gasket and that didn't work. The 120 volt system Figure #1
Peter
That's the Skuttle F60-1 humidifier, rebranded to the Honeywell name. Anyway, I believe that relay is outside the wet area of the reservoire. That means it's just a standard relay. I'd be perfectly comfortable using a universal do-all relay in that application. You just need to be sure it's rated for the amperage it needs to carry as it's controlling the heating element. If it's a 120-V unit, then it needs to able to carry at least 13-AMPS. A 240-V unit it needs to carry a minimum of 9-AMPS. Coil voltage is 24-V in both cases.
If YOU want change, YOU have to first change.
If you are waiting for the 'other guy' to change first, just remember, you're the 'other guy's' other guy. To continue to expect real change when you keep acting the same way as always, is folly. Won't happen. Real change will only happen when a majority of the people change the way they vote!
Thanks for that info. I was just out in the garage checking to see if I had one out there sitting in my spare parts box but no luck. Does anyone have the Honeywell part number for the 24 volt coil relay DPST. I am trying to find one on the internet so I can get one at the supply house. Maybe it is not a common one as both supply house had the DPDT 24 volt coil but not the DPST that I was looking for.
After some page searching on Honeywells home page. I think I have the part # I was looking for. I am guessing here at R4228D,R8228D. I will have to check at the Totaline store in the morning since the other 2 supply houses I went to could not help me on Friday.
Peter