To me, *you* are the one that makes the case that nothing in reality is an absolute. Now, I understand what you are saying, but... if you need creation to be created, that means that it, at one time, did not exist. Circles... once did not exist. Therefore, your absolute has *already* changed states.
The reason that it is otherwise interesting is a form of the argument that you were having with Braces when he said "Existence has always, by necessity, existed". Braces, then, would be the one to claim that circles and math, in a sense at least, "always existed". And thus an "absolute truth".
Agreed on the laws. Gould had an interesting take on this concept. He said, "'fact' does not mean 'absolute certainty'; there ain't no such animal in an exciting and complex world... In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would perverse to withold provisional consent'. I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow; but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms."But can I prove with certainty that the laws of thermodynamics are absolute truths? No. It is possible they will be subject to some modification. But I'd like to think if they are not absolute truths, they are as close as we'll ever see in natural science. They've been around for 150 years, and they've never been shown to be incorrect. Even black holes obey thermodynamic law.
Are you familiar with math anomaly known as Gabriel's horn? Graph y = 1 /x, and rotate the curve around the x-axis. Calculate the volume from x = 1 to infinity, and you get exactly pi. Calculate its surface area, and you get infinity. So Gabriel's horn is an object that has both a fixed volume and an infinite surface.
Yes, the horn... as mysterious as the good old Mobius loop... however, I do not overlook the fact that these things are called "anomalies" for a reason.
That's all I have time for today. Time to Christmas shop. I'll be back later to catch up on other matters.