Tube Expander Swag Tool Suggestions
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  1. #1
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    Tube Expander Swag Tool Suggestions

    Hi

    Im in the market for a tube expander/swag tool.

    Any suggestions on brands or models that are popular and work well?

    Best Rregards

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    The first ridgid set we had worked very well and never had trouble with it until it grew legs and left our shop. The replacement never worked very well on the small sizes like 1/2" & 3/8". It would crack the tube 70-80% of the time no matter what we did. Well now I don't have to worry about that tool anymore cause it grew legs just like the first one. Now we're looking for another replacement and will probably go with the Ridgid. But...

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    I've tried the Ridgid one myself (someone elses) and it worked great. I've tried the cheesier versions too, and they are ok, but not good enough for me to ever use regularly.

    From what I've heard it's always a PITA to swage smaller tubes like 3/8 with out them cracking.
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    i use the old fashion hammer in ones by ritchie or yellow jacket pound them in, never splits a line... ever

    but now that i said that it will split every one for the next few months

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhvac View Post
    i use the old fashion hammer in ones by ritchie or yellow jacket pound them in, never splits a line... ever

    but now that i said that it will split every one for the next few months
    i use one like that as well, it has like 5+ different sizes in 1 tool and you just hammer it in. Never split a line on any copper tube i have used it on.

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    I've used the same Imperial set with the screw on taps for different sizes, just like a flare tool- with no cracks for over 30 years.

    http://www.stridetool.com/tools/flar...gtools_08.html

    I was gonna get the Rothenberger expander, but haven't gotten around to it-
    http://www.cscindustrial.com/06_Roth...Expanders.html

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    you might want to try the hydro swadge. I bought one last month and I love it. The only thing it cracks on 3/8 tubing.

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    I have the Imperial and like it .
    Grainger has them instock most the time.
    http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1A217
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    master-cool hydra swage with the yellow jacket ratchet tubing bender. You will never need a fitting again i love both those tools

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    Quote Originally Posted by rimek View Post
    I've used the same Imperial set with the screw on taps for different sizes, just like a flare tool- with no cracks for over 30 years.

    http://www.stridetool.com/tools/flar...gtools_08.html

    I was gonna get the Rothenberger expander, but haven't gotten around to it-
    http://www.cscindustrial.com/06_Roth...Expanders.html
    I've been using the Imperial set for 7+ years with no problems. The kit is about $120 at most supply houses near here.

    Bill

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    suggestions on 1 1/8 dia tubing?

    have the same setup & like it -- what about bending 1 1/8 ?


    Quote Originally Posted by ryand View Post
    master-cool hydra swage with the yellow jacket ratchet tubing bender. You will never need a fitting again i love both those tools

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    I've got a no-name swage/flare kit I bought 15 years ago and it is still going strong. Didn't have a name but it is similar to the IMPERIAL set and works from 1/4" up to 3/4" OD tubing. I have found that on any tubing less than 3/8"OD the swage is nasty so, I use the hammer in types with no problems. I bought the precursor to the RITCHIE bender set 3 years ago and I haven't had to stock any fittings other than threaded ones, don't have taps or dies to cut flare threads. If you get a good one you will bless your lucky stars!
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    Yellow Jacket and a hammer!
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