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Trane/Am Standard SEER 14 v 16 Eval
I am new to this forum a residential heat pump customer in MA. Have learned a lot from comments on this site. Im aware that a heat pump may not be best for our area, but its what we have in our condo (2500 square feet, 3 floors). We are replacing our 3T system outside unit and inside air handler. Our most important criteria: heating, a quieter unit, and reliability of equipment and installer. Were deciding between Trane and Am Standard (and installers). Leaning toward the XL 14i/Heritage 14 (with variable speed air handler) and changing to R410. A few questions.
1)Big price difference between 14 and 16 series, payback questionable. Thoughts on difference in noise levels between the two? Current contractor indicates that Trane 14i does well in a local town with strict noise ordinances.
2)Second contractor tells us he may be able to get a "great deal" on a 16 SEER American Standard. Im always skeptical of words like this and wondering what questions I should be asking to be sure we are really looking at comparable equipment.
Thanks for the advice and information.
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I think I recall it being stated that the Herritage 14 uses a reciprocal compressor. The Trane XL14i would use a scroll compressor I believe. I'm not fully sure on this, though. Any one of the units you're looking at should be plenty quiet for most people.
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The equipment is identical between the 2 brands. Trane gets the funky top and a better 10 year parts warranty. There's nothing wrong with an American Standard Hertiage over a XR or XLi.
You'll get better heating out of other brands however. And while the 14 & 16 are fairly quiet, there are others even quieter.
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BaldLoonie, does the Heritage 14 use a reciprocal compressor in all sizes?
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 Originally Posted by RyanHughes
BaldLoonie, does the Heritage 14 use a reciprocal compressor in all sizes?
I don't know about AS but Trane's XL14i HP's come with a scroll in 2 1/2 thru 5 ton (2 ton uses recip)
XL15i - 3 thru 5 ton has scroll (1 1/2 thru 2 1/2 ton has recip).
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Both use recip 1.5 ton 2 on the 14. I thought the 15s used scroll at 2 ton but haven't checked lately.
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That clears it up. Is it the Heritage 13 that uses a reciprocal compressor in all sizes or am I just mistaken?
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13 A/C scroll in 3 & 5 ton
13 pumps 5 ton only
both brands
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 Originally Posted by BaldLoonie
Both use recip 1.5 ton 2 on the 14. I thought the 15s used scroll at 2 ton but haven't checked lately.
All 15i's have Climatuff scroll
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 Originally Posted by nelife07
Big price difference between 14 and 16 series, payback questionable.
Post model numbers of condenser and air handler for btu ratings and performance data.
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"Post model numbers of condenser and air handler for btu ratings and performance data."
Specific information: Comparing the XL14i: Trane 4TWX4036B1000A with a variable drive air handler 4TEEE3f37B1000A. We are comparing this system with an XL16i with the same variable drive air handler.
FYI, we are replacing a system with a 21 year old air handler and 12year old heat pump.
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 Originally Posted by nelife07
Comparing the XL14i: Trane 4TWX4036B1000A with a variable drive air handler 4TEEE3f37B1000A. We are comparing this system with an XL16i with the same variable drive air handler.
XL14i:
4TWX4036B condenser with 4TEE3F37 Air handler:
35,400 btu cooling, 11.6 EER, 14 SEER, 8.7 HSPF, 32,000 btu heating at 47 degrees.
XL16i:
4TWX6036B condenser with same air handler:
34,400 btu cooling, 11.4 EER, 16 SEER, 8.75 HSPF, 32,000 btu heating at 47 degrees.
The 16i is weaker on cooling btus and EER. The 16i has a 2-stage compressor. Do you need 2 stages in MA? Is it worth the difference in purchase $$?
Best to you.
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