This is such an excellent example of how IMO and others that the mod furnace excells in comfort, quietness "if there is such a word" and downright flat out customer satisfaction. Two stages are good furnaces but its like comparing the JV to the Varsity.
Originally Posted by docholiday
Mr Scott said it best(but I'll have to paraphrase)
The more they complicated they make it, the easier to
ef it up.
K.I.S.S. Keep it simple cupid!
Did they install the furnace yet.
We want pics.
No, dang it. Cancelled the York contractor after discrepancies between salesman and manager and unwillingness to "go the extra mile." Made me real uncomfortable.
So I went to the Rheem contractor. Everything hunky-dory and I feel they'll do an excellent job. Then I'm presented the contract and it's 25-percent higher than discussed! Sorry, but I just don't have the extra money.
So, now I'm back to square one....I can reconsider contractor #3 w/ a Carrier Infinity VS 2-stage, or start calling other contractors if I still want a mod furnace.
Twilli has a song for you
Oh did Twilli mention
Last edited by Twilly; 10-02-2007 at 10:47 PM.
No Heat No Cool You need Action Fast
look on the bright side...
you know more about furnaces now than you ever did before.
Even though the mod furnace may be the most sound choice for you, we all know that the contractor customer relationship is really the most important thing. After all, you are going to have the same company hopefully come out every year (for the next 20 years?) to service the thing.
In the end, even though I love the design behind the Rheem/York products, the right decision for me was a Bryant 2 Stage VS. Signed the contract and it gets installed a week from this Friday. Never been more satisified with the one Rheem and two Bryant dealers that worked with me on quotes - top notch folks that went the extra mile and answered all of my demanding questions.
Go with your gut and work with the guy that will work with you.
And remember, it is after all only a furnace.
A York mod is being installed in my Mother's home as I type this post. Thank-you PPETERS914 for starting threads about mods and the York that I otherwise would have needed to start - and thanks to the pros for responding.
These price changes are suspicious. I think it must be either the contractors, or the complexity of the install/extra work as the contractor that I am going with was also selling a Lennox G61 two-stage for only $100 (CDN - as if that matters at the moment) less than the York. The other York guy I talked to also sells Carrier and he priced the Carrier Infinity higher than the York (I think ~$200, but can't remember).
I don't think the furnace is the cause of the high prices. I suspect that you either have some questionable contractors there, or the install is more complex than they first realized. My shopping has shown that the York is competitively priced with the best two-stagers to the point that the differences are to small to worry about.
Any more York contractors around?
Carrier and Bryant have responded with a modulating furnace that can match the three stages of heat that Rheem offers and do not require any special stat. They have the top of the line ECM motor and you can't even hear it run in low fire. A friend has one in his house and that thing is AWESOME!
Then its a 3 stage furnace, not a modulating furnace.
I thought someone else said that Rheem had three stages of heat, my mistake. Either way, the unit I saw looks like a good one.
The Rheem unit is 13 steps of modulation when used with the Mod stat.
Its 3 stages when used with a 2 stage stat.
Its 2 stages when used with a single stage stat.
The York Mod is 65 steps of modulation, and uses a regular single stage stat
They claim the furnace can modulate to 1% increments, but then the valve would have to move in increments of something crazy like a .00025" movement...is that even possible? Or is it some kind of marketing gimmick. The guy who bought the Carrier said that he liked the York but did not like the board-mounted pressure transducer because if it craps out then the entire control board has to be changed? I can't say I fully understand this but since I am now considering upgrading my 80% unit to a modulating unit can anyone address my questions
The York mod comes with a 5 year part warranty. And like any other good unit, you can get an extended factory warranty for ten years.
Yes it modulates in 1% increments. 65 steps of modulation.
Commercial burners have been doing this for more years then I can remember. Its not something actually new. Just new to the residencial market.
If the fan relay craps out on that Carrier. Your buddy will have to get an entire new board that isn't cheap. Carrier is very proud of their name.