Reported talks on British Iraq pullout
BRITISH Prime Minister Gordon Brown's chief foreign policy adviser has sounded out the White House on a possible early withdrawal of troops from Iraq, a newspaper reported today.
The Sunday Times quoted an unnamed source as saying that Simon McDonald gave the impression that he was “doing the groundwork” for Brown, who meets US President George W. Bush for the first time as prime minister later today.
Mr McDonald, a senior diplomat who ran the Iraq desk at the Foreign Office in London, is said to have asked a “select group” of US foreign policy specialists earlier this month about the possible effects of a British pull-out.
In an article from London and Washington, the newspaper quoted one of those consulted as saying: “The general feeling was that he was doing the groundwork for a Brown conversation.
“The view is Britain feels it can't fight two wars, and Afghanistan is more worth fighting for,” the sourced said. Britain has 7000 soldiers in Afghanistan, serving as part of a NATO security and reconstruction force there.
Downing Street reportedly denied there had been a change in policy.
Mr Brown has strongly resisted calls for an immediate withdrawal of Britain's 5000-strong force, which is based around the southern port city of Basra, saying a pull out would only come when the security situation was right.
The Sunday Times also carried an interview with US army Colonel H.R. McMaster, one of the architects of Bush's controversial “surge” of 30,000 more troops to stem the bloody tide of sectarian violence in Iraq.
He was quoted as saying: “If we leave now, there would be chaos.”
Mr Brown said in a statement yesterday that Britain would remain the United States' strongest ally and the so-called “special relationship” could even become stronger in the future.
His insistence on strong ties comes amid speculation that he could try to distance himself from Mr Bush, because of lingering resentment at his predecessor Tony Blair's close alignment with Washington, particularly over Iraq.
I believe the British will stay In Iraq for the foreseeable future, if for no other reason than to have a place to test new weapon systems that are coming down the pipeline
Not new "talks", tinkerbelle.
Try keeping up.
Give it a rest Tink. This is getting quite old. You spaming everything negative which you can find on our President and the administration and your heros are all traitors or forigen communists who are critical of America which you are in spades.
"I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
Sen. Barry Goldwater
Didn't Britain promise to totally pull out early this year? I seem to remember something like that...or perhaps it was some more yummy spam?
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Here's a "news article" for ya, tink:
Annoying Chimp Who Claims he is a HVAC Professional Spams H-Talk Website
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."
that would be Pullout Version 2.0
as they got their butts kicked out once before in the 1920's.
slow learners evidently
Your kindergarten cleaning out the sandbox again? They should have escorted you over to the monkey bars till the sandbox is back in operation.
Originally Posted by batdude
an interesting quote from the British general
Bomber Harris, during their previous encounter.
as background, the Brits were driving around the first primitive APC's, and using their new weapon of war, the aeroplane. This was during the 20's of course.
To paraphrase him, he expressed incredulity that they wouldn't give up, having only small arms and camels as defense. He said, "don't they realize that in 45 minutes from the air we can kill everyone in their village? but for some reason, that just makes them more determined than ever to resist, and the survivors fight even harder."
(human nature apparently is unmodified during the interim, along with tactics for insuring eventual aggressor's defeat.)
Agreed. SPAM indeed. There are a few non-HVAC members of this forum who are only here to spam this site with anti-God and anti-U.S. rhetoric. Best to not reply to them when we can keep from doing so.
Originally Posted by chillbilly
Any attempt to post rational responses to this sites regular spammers is more like stirring up the manure pile. The only thing that really happens is the smell continues to worsen.
Government is a disease...
...masquerading as its own cure…
Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV
Originally Posted by whec720
I think I'll remake Bob Marley's "Jamming" and call it "He's Spamming" in honor of TinSpammer.
It's great to be alive and pumping oxygen!