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    This is comforting to know

    Are we a nation of idiots or what??? I guess we will never learn.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...071101895.html
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    Scary, isn't it?
    And now we have Chertoff predicting a terrorist strike on our soil this summer as a "gut feeling". The head of DHS predicting terrorist attacks.
    If he's right, he can say "I told you so".
    If he's wrong, 'Well, it was just a gut feeling".
    Either way, that type of rhetoric from someone supposedly in charge of DHS doesn't inspire much confidence.

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    In a capitalist republic anyone should be able to buy anything as long as the price is right, quit trying to find fault with a system that 's been working. If anybody buys stuff thaey arent supposed to have ,kill them.

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    you figure the rules would be stricter, of similar magnitude at least, like the rules that say who can buy guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnak View Post
    you figure the rules would be stricter, of similar magnitude at least, like the rules that say who can buy guns.

    I don't see the rules as the problem.
    I see abuse of the rules stemming from apathy and greed as the problem.

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    greed?

    A person is so greedy they want to make a dirty bomb so they can sell it and get rich?

    Or, they are terrorists and are greedy in that they want a high death count when they strike? They are greedy for knotches in their gunhandles?
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    they are really Hired republicans trying to prove how safe we are and it backfired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnak View Post
    greed?

    A person is so greedy they want to make a dirty bomb so they can sell it and get rich?

    Or, they are terrorists and are greedy in that they want a high death count when they strike? They are greedy for knotches in their gunhandles?
    Yes, yes and yes. They want Americans, Israeli's and all other opposition dead, plain and simple.
    And there are even Americans that will sell out their country for profit.
    Big suprise? Hardly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chillbilly View Post
    Yes, yes and yes. They want Americans, Israeli's and all other opposition dead, plain and simple.
    And there are even Americans that will sell out their country for profit.
    Big suprise? Hardly.
    If you reworded that to 'Isreal and its allies' it is quite a profound context, similar to royc's "If Americans only knew"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnak View Post
    If you reworded that to 'Isreal and its allies' it is quite a profound context, similar to royc's "If Americans only knew"
    Americans do know. Who cares what is perceived as profound on this forum or elsewhere?
    The point is clear and concise. There are a ton of myths that surround the Arab-Israeli conflict and the Islamic mentality about us and the rest of their enemies.
    If you need to separate fact from myth about it, you read guides that explain the chronology of events and the quotes from the leaders involved.
    If you don't care about separating fact from fiction, you read an op-ed article.

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    Pre WWII, the US had no problems with muslims, what has changed?
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    Its crazy, if arab countries are not trying to kill eachother, then their attacking israel or the US or executing some mothers son somewhere. Reminds me of american history, where indian tribes were always at odds with eachother and sending out war parties. Its amazing we still have tribal mentalities in this day and age. These people can have so many choices, yet they choose to be ignorant and closeminded, which in and of itself can make a person hateful and envious. Its a vicious cycle that can only be eradicated by conditioning their future generations which aint going to happen in a dictatorship society.
    The future holds nothing but problems with people of this mindset.
    To put the world in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must put the family in order; to put the family in order, we must cultivate our personal life; and to cultivate our personal life, we must first set our hearts right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnak View Post
    Pre WWII, the US had no problems with muslims, what has changed?
    Absolutely not true.
    The US has looked at the Middle East with nervousness long before WW2.
    The Balfour Declaration issued by Britain in 1917 and formalized by 52 governments created anti-Jewish sentiment even though many Arab Palestinians agreed that a Jewish settlement there aided regeneration of the region.
    Emir Faisal even signed an agreement with Zionist leaders during the 1919 Paris Peace Conference that acknowledged the ancient bonds that existed between Arabs and Jews. The agreement was never enacted primarily due to extremist influence.

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