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Thread: AC in a Kitchen and Exhaust Fan
07-27-2007, 09:59 AM #27Regular Guest
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Just as ManinBlack said...Short Circuit hoods do not work. Thet are a poor design and you don't see them installed very often anymore. Is the hood that you are talking about a "face discharge" hood? In otherwords, is it blowing the make up ait out away from the hood? If it is, you can change it to a down discharge by buying a new make up air plenum and installing the duct to the new plenum. About 80-90% of the down discharge make up air is captured by the exhaust canopy if it is installed and working properly.
Make up air is not air conditioning....unless it is conditioned. Also, that grill is radiating heat. Radiant heat will not be captured by any hood. Captive Air make air-conditioned make up air units.
go to www.captiveair.com
07-28-2007, 05:44 AM #28
07-28-2007, 07:28 AM #29
Good point... yellow/floating flames are only trouble due to lack of secondary air.
Keeping a slightly positive air balance should elevate any combustion air issue.
10-04-2007, 12:08 AM #30Regular Guest
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common problem. yse you have to condition make up air most of the time unless you can control the path of the make up air and get all of it to go out the exhaust without crossing the conditioned space. the path of the air flow is as important as the air balance.
11-20-2007, 11:42 PM #31Professional Member
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Reznor Makes make up air unit with dx cooling
try reznor make up air unit with a dx cooling coil in it and condition the make up air. but make sure your air is in balance.
11-26-2007, 11:27 PM #32
A gas-fired make up air unit with DX, plus an air balance, sounds like the 100% sure way to fix this problem. But, if the customer resists, or can't afford that option:
Don't condition the kitchen directly with the new HVAC system. To do this, disable the kitchen return or relocate it to the dining area if necessary to maintain total HVAC system airflow. Disable HVAC supply grills in the kitchen. This might require adding more outlets in the dining area, or increasing sizes of existing outlets. Configure the HVAC unit to run the blower continuously whenever the cooking hood is running. Set the outside air hood to 20% open or the economizer to a 20% minimum position. This will be a source of conditioned make up air and will produce a positive pressure in the dining room. The MUA should be adjusted to introduce less air than the exhaust is removing. The resulting negative pressure will pull conditioned air from the dining area into the kitchen. I understand that this might create some negative pressure in the kitchen, relative to outside, but it might be unavoidable if this "quick fix" is to have an effect on the dining area. Next, would it be possible to cover the make up grills with a fabricated plenum that would redirect the air down? The plenum would need to be full length (6') and have perforated metal for the outlet. Velocity is critical, downward flow can tend to induce smoke out of the hood. Or, it might be possible to just cover the grills with a perforated box, perhaps with splash plates directly in front of the grills, that would reduce velocity to a point that the supply air doesn't mix with room air.
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