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    Ontario Refrigeration Apprenticeship

    So with the 5 year refrigeration apprenticeship, you sign onto your journeyman, who from what i understand makes 32-38$ an hour (correct me if I am wrong)
    then you make wages according to what year your in (percentages)
    how does your gas license affect this rate of pay?
    as in a gas 2, or, a gas 1 technician doing his refrigeration apprenticeship

    just curious on what the normal is

    also, if you have refrigeration hours that you can use after your signed on, what years are good to use them?

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    Getting your gas license is expected but not manditory. Altho there are gas and oil questions on your c of Q. If you work for a refrigeration company they might not work on any gas equipment. It doesn't affect the pay. The pay scale you mention is accuratefor union companies. Some non union shops may pay the same but on top of your rate is your benefits, and pension which add almost another $8 per hour.
    refrigeration workers of Ontario

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    Arrow ontario refrigeration isnt worth working for

    In my opinion!

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    You can't make a statement like that without clarification. I would like to know your reasons.
    My opion is that it's an interesting career, with a great demand and is probably the most stable of trades. Plus making $100,000 a year is a great wage for a so called blue collar worker. Not to mention the many areas you can specialize in if you get bored or don't like certain areas.
    refrigeration workers of Ontario

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    About the only province where gas fitting is a trade that I am aware of is Alberta. Gas fitting is a ticket that plumbers, sheet metal workers, refrigeration mechanics can get.

    Most likely the wage for apprentices will be a percentage of what journeyman make, so it depends on what that company is paying journeyman,at least it was like that for sheet metal workers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guy787north View Post
    isitfixedyet
    You can't make a statement like that without clarification. I would like to know your reasons.
    My opion is that it's an interesting career, with a great demand and is probably the most stable of trades. Plus making $100,000 a year is a great wage for a so called blue collar worker. Not to mention the many areas you can specialize in if you get bored or don't like certain areas.
    He has no clue guy, don't worry about him
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    Exeryone can have an opion, but to make a satement like that without an explation isn't right. I make a good living in this industry and am bothered when people insult it.
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    Cool

    I would say someone that makes a comment like that most likely could not handle the challenges that we HVAC&R mechanics go through.
    I have been in this trade for 18 years and it has been nothing but good to me.

    If anyone is interested in rates they should go to the UA Local 787 website, the rates that everyone looks to are there (even the plumbers). I hope everyone realizes UA Local 787 HVAC&R Mechanics are KING in the Trades for wages right across the province.

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    To answer the OP question
    the apprenticeship % is based upon the hrly wage excluding the gas ticket portion. (unless as in BC the gst liscence is incorperated into the base pay rate then you get the %)

    generally apprentices get the lower grade gas liscence in their school last yrs

    the bennifits may also be %ed except the medical ( this is to prevent the apprentices from having to top up the medical payments monthly)

    yo ugenerally start at 40% 1st yr pre apprentice then every 6 months you get 5% after the 1st yr you are considered a regular 1st yr apprentice at 50% of a journeymans rate then every 6 months 5% increase

    your employer can choose to pay you above rate if they wish - so if you currently have your gas liscence when you are an apprentice some employers may consider paying you for the ticket (NOT BLOODY LIKELY THOUGH)
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    Your best bet in this trade is to work for yourself. Depending on how well you understand refrigeration, you're a rare commidity with less competitors than say electricians or plumbers.

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    you are crazy to work for your self in this trade.

    I work for a company and all I have to do is make sure I do a good job and pay day is on thursday.

    I have not missed a beat for the last 12 years and am making 120 000 a year and home on the weekend with holidays

    Life is good

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    I guess it depends where you live. I'm from Squamish BC and our rate right now Is 120 an hour plus time and materials for most non-quoted jobs. Again where I live there are very few refrig mechanics and even fewer people who understand it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrobb89 View Post
    I guess it depends where you live. I'm from Squamish BC and our rate right now Is 120 an hour plus time and materials for most non-quoted jobs. Again where I live there are very few refrig mechanics and even fewer people who understand it
    Most Van Island contractors are sub-$100/hr charge out.....is the $120 reflected by the Olympics keeping you guys too busy do you think???

    I believe Vancouver proper is all sub $100/hr charge out too is it not?
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