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    Outdoor Firepit

    Does anyone know where I can get codes and standards regarding oudoor gas firepits? I have been seeing these become more and more popular. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks

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    Are you looking for things like clearances to combustible materials? Thats about the only thing I can think of that might apply to one of those. I can check NFPA 54 on monday when I go back to the office.

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    I have old version of the standard you require IAS U.S. Requirements for Outdoor Gas Fireplaces NO.4-96 Draft NO.4, there is no difference between this one and newer versions. But from what I understand there is no real standards as of yet for outdoor fireplaces that are nationally reconized, if I am incorrect please let me know. The standard is very similar to other fireplace standars with combustion , wall floor ceiling , POC and BOC and etc.

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    The main thing is to follow the installation manual. Each unit is different. I've seen them rated at 40k btu and up to 400k btu. I don't think the clearances would be the same on those two units !!!!

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    Talking fire pits

    As far as I know, they are unlisted appliances and therefore not allowed in some jurisdictions. Even the wood burners can be really scary. I've seen installations where the flames would roast a person seated at a bench next to it. I've also seen overhangs way too close. Even if the overhangs don't ignite, they may provide a pathway for byproducts of combustion to enter the home. Then again, you can put a BBQ grille just about anywhere you want to.

    One of many loopholes in the codes.

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    No safeties, no good up, in this neck of the woods!

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    All of the ones that I have worked on have at least a thermocouple and the newer ones have electric ignition. I saw a firepit being built on one of the DIY channels and it was just basically a log lighter in a firepit.....VERY unsafe !!!!

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    Most that I have dealt with must be 10' away from any structure.
    Trust me, I know what I'm doing.

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