Whose worse, Obama or Clinton?
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    Whose worse, Obama or Clinton?

    it's kinda hard to say.

    when Bill Clinton was President, i was afraid to turn on the TV,
    "Clinton sends Gore to China" (to give them more American jobs)
    "Clinton signs assault rifle ban"
    "Clinton gives missile technology to China , now they can hit the U.S."
    "Clinton is trying to give Long Beach harbor to the Chinese"

    i'm not joking, i was afraid to turn on the news.

    but Obama's health care bill could be the worst piece of legalisation of modern America, with people being cut back to 30 hours, the added welfare state , and everyone who works being forced to contribute to the health care money-void.

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    Thus sayest the Lord God Almighty who rules in the heavens and the Earth, "It will pass, but it won't have any teeth to it". That is what the Lord spoke to me very clearly before they even took the first vote in the senate when they were trying to pass it with 60 votes instead of 50. To add some credibility, I'm going to insert a part of my testimony because I know how many whacky Christian prophetic type people there are on the internet. And I'd say 95% of them really haven't heard from God. But, that is just my opinion.

    You hit it right when you said, "Clinton gives missile guidance technology to China & now they can hit the U.S." That's the one I was thining of. That was the real damaging one there. And to think he did it for illegal campaign contributions from China is really sick. But Clinton was a sex addict, and that kind of slowed him down a little bit.

    The thing about Obama is that he is still a bit of a mystery man because the media covers for him like crazy. It's obvious he has a very strained relationship with his wife. He manages her by putting her on AF1, and letting her stay in $4,000/night hotels and spend thousands at fancy restaurants and shopping centers. That keeps her happy--kinda I guess. But it still remains kind of a mystery what Obamas background is. What subject did he write his thesis on? Where was he really born? Where did he really go to college? What really makes him tick? Sometimes I think he is just a narcissist who likes to watch ESPN in the white house and fly around on AF1 and hob nob with Hollywood elites. I think he is just a front man for the democrat party, but he doesn't really have much conviction of his own. But I would say Obama is more dangerous because Eric Holder is the cheif law enforcement officer in the country, and all he does is cover for Obama and the democratic party. In that sense, Obama can do anything he wants to do, but Clinton at least seemed to allowed himself to be bound by the rule of law. Therefore, I think Obama is more dangerous.

    My testimony in part...

    Here are just a few examples of the things I remember about the Holy Spirit moving in my life. I'm only going to list them because some people don't think I was ever even a Christian with this much sin in my life.

    In 1981, at the age of 24, I went to take the SAT test at a high school here in Ft. Worth, TX. There was a very cute young lady there that didn't feel well because she had spent the night before out drinking with her friends. She told the administrator that she wasn't feeling well enough to take the test. The administrator walked off for just a minute to attend to something else. During that time I prayed so fervently to the Lord, and I prayed that this very important moment in this girl's life would not be taken from her. The administrator came back and wanted to confirm with the girl that she wasn't going to take the test. The girl said she was feeling better now, and she would be able to take the test. She finished the whole test. Back then I think the SAT was about a 3 or 4 hour test.

    In 1989 when I was about 33, I was driving to a Steven Curtis Chapman concert at a place in Euless, TX called Footloose. It was a Christian entertainment type thing that isn't there anymore. Anyway, I had been praying for a while to the Lord that I might be able to meet a Latina type woman. I know that may sound weird, but I have always been attracted to petite dark-haired or brunette women. Maybe I just felt inferior dating a "normal" white girl. I guess that had something to do with it. Anyway, when I was about 1 mile from Footloose, the Lord spoke to me (not audibly) as clearly as ever and He asked, "You want a Latina girl?" I'm telling you that's what He said. I arrived at the concert and took a seat towards the back in the middle section before the concert started. I was sitting by myself. Sometime just before the concert started, I noticed there was this really cute petite Latina type girl sitting next to me on my right. I had been sitting by myself, but the place had begun to really fill up. This girl had the whole Latina look with the blue jeans and bright red shoes and dark hair, etc. She was about 5'1" tall and probably weighed about 100 lbs. I talked to her off and on during the concert. She was from Nicaragua and her family had just came to the United States during the Contra freedom fighter thing that was happening in Nicaragua during the Reagan Presidency. She thought she didn't speak good English, but she really spoke good English. She was an adorable girl. She was 21 years old. During the concert this girl kept bumping into me too which I thought was unusual. I know you may think this is funny, but it's true. When the concert was over I stayed in my seat for a while because I wanted to wait for the crowd to die down before I left, and I also wanted to buy a couple albums. This girl got up to leave with the people she came with. As she was waiting in the line to get out the door, she kept looking over at me like, "you moron aren't you even going to ask me for my phone number?" Unfortunately I had on my mind what I was going to do in Dallas after I left the concert which was not good. It wasn't until a while afterward that I actually realized what had happened and what the Lord spoke to me just before I got to the concert that night. The thing is, I wanted to do things my way (illicit) by going to Dallas instead of the Lord's way which was to start a relationship with this beautiful girl I had met at this concert. She was what I had requested (physically anyway) in prayer, but I was too stupid or whatever to trust the Lord in this situation. I wanted to handle things my way.

    Around 1990, I told a 28 year old female friend of mine that if she was really ready to be married, I could have her married in 6 months. She met a guy at a Bible study neither one of them were even planning to go to, and about 6 months later they were married.

    In 1995 I was sitting in the back of Calvary Cathedral International church in downtown Ft. Worth, and I prayed as earnestly as ever, "Lord I wish a tornado would come through here and destroy all this". I prayed that because I believed that the "laughter movement" from when Rodney Howard-Brown was there 3 years ago had just gotten out of control. I don't question however that it was a very real movement of God and a blessing to the church. Also, the acoustics in that round building were horrible because of so much reverberation. Well, five years later that is what happened. A tornado touched down and stayed over the church for 2.5 minutes. The building was destroyed, but not a single person was hurt. The church was fully staffed at the time. They bought another church about 3 miles away that used to be Midtown Church of Christ.

    In 2000, I was at a Wendy's restaurant in Bellevue, WA. There was much political debate at work about the next president. As I sat there in Oct/2000 with my absentee ballot, I voted for Pat Buchanan which I was planning to do all along. The Lord spoke to me in the most poignant way ever, and He asked, "Are you sure you really want to do that"? Then He showed me that this race would be so tight and so close that we wouldn't know who the next president would be for days and possibly weeks or months. I wasn't exactly sure how long the Lord was telling me this would go on--just that as time went on it would become more clear who would win. It was more clear than an audible voice. This is when Bush barely won Florida by about 1,500 votes. It went on for days or weeks about who would be the winner.

    In 2001 or 2002 I was about 46 I guess. I had gone for almost a year without the illicit activity in my life. I thought that I was over it, but I still had a problem with internet porn. I went to a TCU football game in Ft. Worth, TX near the time of Thanksgiving. I prayed for a while before I went to the game, and I was praying that the Lord would deliver me from going to the strip places in Ft. Worth where there were drugs and prostitution. As I was praying the Lord spoke to me just as clearly as he had the first time about meeting the Latina girl at Footloose, and He said, "There is someone at the game I want you to meet". I didn't know what to think of this, but I didn't think I had my act together enough to start a relationship. I went to the game. It was a night game and due to being near the holidays there weren't quite as many people there. TCU was winning and they upset #17 ranked Louisville at that game. There was this girl I had noticed there that was so attractive to me. She was the type of girl that I had told the Lord I would like to have as a wife. Again, I'm talking physical attraction here. You know how shallow us guys are about this. Anyway, this girl was "hot" to use the modern term. At least she was to me, and I thought I wish I could meet somebody like her. I thought for sure this girl had to be married. I never more than glanced at her, and she never saw me looking at her. With about 2 minutes left in the game I moved down to a completely different section of stands near the 10 yard line. I did this because I was making my way out of the stadium and wanted to beat the crowd out a little bit. I was about 4 or 5 rows back in this section of stands and there was NOBODY in this entire section of stands except me. All of the sudden this girl that I had noticed walks down and stands right next to me!! I looked at her, and she kind of awkwardly looked away out of embarrassment I guess. Now, my mind is racing. This time I realize that I am right in the middle of what the Lord told me was going to happen. But I begin to justify in my mind why I can't have a relationship with this girl. I'm not enough this or that or the other thing. I never opened my mouth and after about a minute or two of her standing there, she went back to hang out with the people she came to the game with. I didn't talk to her because I can't talk to women. I have no problem with that or making conversation, etc. I guess I just couldn't believe that a girl as attractive as this girl was would really like me if she knew who I really was. So guess what? After the game was over I went to the seedy section of Ft. Worth like clockwork.

    In 2002 when the snipers were out in Washington, DC a few years ago, I simply went to the Lord in prayer and I asked the Lord if He would reveal to me who was doing the killing. The Lord spoke to me, and He said, "It's 2 black guys from the Tacoma, WA area and one is a lot older than the other, but they are both under 40". The Lord also showed that the name of one was "Malvo", but I wasn't sure if that was the first name or last name. That's what the Lord said. I thought about going to the FBI, but since I had this sin problem in my life I was always shy about telling people things the Lord revealed to me. I was afraid I had missed God and would make myself look foolish.

    In 2008 or 2009, a couple of years ago before they even took the first vote in the Senate on Obama's health care bill, the Lord spoke to me about it, and he said, "It will pass, but there won't be any teeth to it". The Lord was saying it would pass, but it wouldn't be enforceable. It failed to get 60 votes in the Senate, and then the democrats lowered the bar for it to pass with 50 votes.

    OK, so those are just some of the highlights. What I'm saying is that I had a close relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ, but I also had this terrible sin problem in my life and there was a 2-week cycle of sin. Well about 18 months ago.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfstrike View Post
    it's kinda hard to say.

    when Bill Clinton was President, i was afraid to turn on the TV,
    "Clinton sends Gore to China" (to give them more American jobs)
    "Clinton signs assault rifle ban"
    "Clinton gives missile technology to China , now they can hit the U.S."
    "Clinton is trying to give Long Beach harbor to the Chinese"

    i'm not joking, i was afraid to turn on the news.

    but Obama's health care bill could be the worst piece of legalisation of modern America, with people being cut back to 30 hours, the added welfare state , and everyone who works being forced to contribute to the health care money-void.
    Nixon made China our prefered trading partner. Stop blaming everything on dems, both sides are to blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exreo View Post

    You hit it right when you said, "Clinton gives missile guidance technology to China & now they can hit the U.S." That's the one I was thining of. That was the real damaging one there. And to think he did it for illegal campaign contributions from China is really sick. But Clinton was a sex addict, and that kind of slowed him down a little bit.

    The thing about Obama is that he is still a bit of a mystery man because the media covers for him like crazy. It's obvious he has a very strained relationship with his wife. He manages her by putting her on AF1, and letting her stay in $4,000/night hotels and spend thousands at fancy restaurants and shopping centers. That keeps her happy--kinda I guess. But it still remains kind of a mystery what Obamas background is. What subject did he write his thesis on? Where was he really born? Where did he really go to college? What really makes him tick? Sometimes I think he is just a narcissist who likes to watch ESPN in the white house and fly around on AF1 and hob nob with Hollywood elites. I think he is just a front man for the democrat party, but he doesn't really have much conviction of his own. But I would say Obama is more dangerous because Eric Holder is the cheif law enforcement officer in the country, and all he does is cover for Obama and the democratic party. In that sense, Obama can do anything he wants to do, but Clinton at least seemed to allowed himself to be bound by the rule of law. Therefore, I think Obama is more dangerous.


    In 2008 or 2009, a couple of years ago before they even took the first vote in the Senate on Obama's health care bill, the Lord spoke to me about it, and he said, "It will pass, but there won't be any teeth to it". The Lord was saying it would pass, but it wouldn't be enforceable. It failed to get 60 votes in the Senate, and then the democrats lowered the bar for it to pass with 50 votes.
    This would have probably been sufficient, not that I bothered to read the story of your life.


    I think Clinton with his faults was a way better President than what you have now, probably the worst president I can recall. I really do feel bad for you guys.
    Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. —Mark Twain

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