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  1. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    So, as I understand it .,.,...... it?
    it gets me closer to that 14,000 mark !!!! hahahahahahahh!
    ... however, much work still needs to be done.
    CLOSED LOOP newer ratings are listed, but in numerical EER's Closed- is posted below OPEN LOOP EER's:

    http://www.energystar.gov/productfin...r=0&lastpage=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommyz23 View Post
    It does. Everyone wants to condemn someone for saying you'll get a high head low suction when we've all seen it (unless all we work on is package units). Type in low suction high head and see what you get on this forum. Restrictions. Very rarely do you get a perfect system like a package unit from the factory. That is when you get the lower than normal suction and head. But instead we get the 75 foot line sets, old as hell, not evacuated properly and so on and so forth. With that said, it is possible to get both. I won't lie. I've gone and hooked up my gages and said "oh it's low" and out charge in of only to see my head rise. Then say opps restriction. When it's hot hot hot and you're ****tin and gettin it happens. Hopefully you realize dumping charge in isn't the solution.
    I smashed the highside with a hammer to totally restrict highside and after 30 seconds both pressures were low. After reading this debate I never say high head pressure at all

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    I think next time they have a meeting for reinventing the wheel we should all be on that committee ! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwd111 View Post
    I smashed the highside with a hammer to totally restrict highside and after 30 seconds both pressures were low. After reading this debate I never say high head pressure at all
    Line set length? Overcharged? It can happen is what I'm saying. I've seen both.

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    Neginhorn optical senwish 45 ! One time a setdown happened - overage can do too. I can't see leptune happen - but sometimes; who can know mob? <g> Your furtunate planet-wise I can. Best to just charge and go or not.

    Oh! Sorry! I guess was channeling someone from 1980 there for a minute. Whew!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommyz23 View Post
    Line set length? Overcharged? It can happen is what I'm saying. I've seen both.
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  6. #71
    Well, I thought this thread would help but its not. I'll ask it on this thread then. I have a unit. That is running 50 lb suction. 50 degrees of superheat. 475 pound head with anywhere from 8-13 degrees of subcooling. Amp draw slightly low but not sure. I was thinking it may be the TXV. It will run like this till the compressor thermals out and it will make a ticking noise on the compressor. It's a 2 year old York system. Coils are clean. We installed. Maintain them every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    Neginhorn optical senwish 45 ! One time a setdown happened - overage can do too. I can't see leptune happen - but sometimes; who can know mob? <g> Your furtunate planet-wise I can. Best to just charge and go or not.

    Oh! Sorry! I guess was channeling someone from 1980 there for a minute. Whew!

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    lololol hahahhah I can barely hit the keeezzzzzzz GOOD NIGHT !!!! hahahahh LOLOLOLOLL VERY- L !!!
    ... however, much work still needs to be done.
    CLOSED LOOP newer ratings are listed, but in numerical EER's Closed- is posted below OPEN LOOP EER's:

    http://www.energystar.gov/productfin...r=0&lastpage=1

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    HEY phm IS GETTING CLOSER TO 14000 TOO !

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    50 lb suction. 50 degrees of superheat. 475 pound head with anywhere from 8-13 degrees of subcooling. Amp draw slightly low but not sure. I was thinking it may be the TXV. It will run like this till the compressor thermals out and it will make a ticking noise on the compressor. It's a 2 year old York system--------------

    410a? more info LOADS and work to be done; or ignore if somewhere you mentioned , etc.
    ... however, much work still needs to be done.
    CLOSED LOOP newer ratings are listed, but in numerical EER's Closed- is posted below OPEN LOOP EER's:

    http://www.energystar.gov/productfin...r=0&lastpage=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    Neginhorn optical senwish 45&#186; ! One time a setdown happened - overage can do too. I can't see leptune happen - but sometimes; who can know mob? &lt;g&gt; Your furtunate planet-wise I can. Best to just charge and go or not.

    Oh! Sorry! I guess was channeling someone from 1980 there for a minute. Whew!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    Neginhorn optical senwish 45 ! One time a setdown happened - overage can do too. I can't see leptune happen - but sometimes; who can know mob? <g> Your furtunate planet-wise I can. Best to just charge and go or not.

    Oh! Sorry! I guess was channeling someone from 1980 there for a minute. Whew!

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    Thought I called him treat head not poodle head

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    Fill in the blanks -

    Application: _______
    Refrigerant? ______
    Air temp entering and leaving condenser? _____
    Air temp entering and leaving evap? ______
    Head press: 475 lbs
    Suction press: 50 lbs
    SSH: 50
    SC: 8-13

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattlehead11 View Post
    Well, I thought this thread would help but its not. I'll ask it on this thread then. I have a unit. That is running 50 lb suction. 50 degrees of superheat. 475 pound head with anywhere from 8-13 degrees of subcooling. Amp draw slightly low but not sure. I was thinking it may be the TXV. It will run like this till the compressor thermals out and it will make a ticking noise on the compressor. It's a 2 year old York system. Coils are clean. We installed. Maintain them every year.
    PHM
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    It's a straight ac. 410a. About 120 leaving the condenser. 81 in the evap 73 out.

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