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    Evaporator Coil Leak = New Air Handler?

    I have a 9 year old Trane XE 1200 system. We have experienced small Freon leaks the last couple of years. We would have the system recharged and it would be fine for about 9 months. This year when the system was charged it leaked down in a couple of months.

    The service technician finally found the leak in the evaporator coil. The service manager called and said that we needed to replace the coil because it was impossible to repair the leak given where it was located.

    It is an American Standard air handler and he said it was going to cost $XXXXfor the coil replacement. I believe he said the identifying air handler number was TWE036-SF-2.

    I'm obviously no expert but I can't imagine that the whole air handler itself would be much more than that to replace.

    Does the repair cost seem reasonable?
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    AS must be proud of their coils. I had a slow leak in my Lennox indoor coil at home. New coil was twice the amount I paid for the indoor unit 9 years earlier. It was a small leak so I lived with it.

    AS to cost, labor and ease of access must be considered.

    BTW, not supposed to post prices here, forum rules.
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    I assure you the coil does not cost much, it is the labor that takes the cost to the extreme, It is there time, that they are proud of... and they are ashamed of that so they tell you that the coil cost is high, when in reality, it is not. I wish the industry could be based a little more on honesty insted of deception.......

    Proffit could be the same, just be honest on the brake down, In my experiance my customers appreciate that..

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    Your part really cost X but I need to charge you x+y to be in business...

    I am sure some in the industry agree, but most will not.........

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    Infohunter88,

    Cost of replacement coils varies from brand to brand. It also depends on whether the indoor unit is still a production model or not. If not, then it is a custom coil to manufacture and costs more to make. I am a Lennox dealer, when they quoted me the price of the coil, that model was no longer made, therefore a custom job. That is why it cost so much. American standard out of production coilstend to be the same way.

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    Since it's 9 years old. Warrant must had run out. Sometimes Its a good idea to have a new air handler because suppose one day if other part(s) went out after repair the evaporator coil and the maintence cost going up. At least you get a new unit with full warranty. It's my opinion. Hope that help

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    Trane and other ,air handler coils can cost about the same as a new airhnadler.

    I didn't see the price post,but at the age it is,I'd go with the new air handler.


    I'd also be sure that the new air handler can be used with the new refrigerent ,see www.400a.com for more info..

    I'd also want to know the new air handler would work with a higher SEER outdoor unit as you will likely replace it in less then 5 years.

    Oh ,I forgot,inguire about a variable speed air handler and dehumidification controls,might as well get some added comfort for your money.

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    I'd say replace the air handler, for all the reasons given.

    There are very few industries that will provide a parts and labor estimate. Most of the time, it's just a matter of "this is the estimate." Cost is cost. I don't see what would be gained by breaking down labor and parts costs. That leads to wasted time, animosity, and quibbling. No one has time for that, nowadays.

    The best idea is to work with people you trust. You can find them through referals from folks you respect who thought the contractor did a good job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    I'd say replace the air handler, for all the reasons given.

    There are very few industries that will provide a parts and labor estimate. Most of the time, it's just a matter of "this is the estimate." Cost is cost. I don't see what would be gained by breaking down labor and parts costs. That leads to wasted time, animosity, and quibbling. No one has time for that, nowadays.

    The best idea is to work with people you trust. You can find them through referals from folks you respect who thought the contractor did a good job.
    Not to waste time,cause animosity,or quibble,but "people you respect" don't always know if the contractor they used did a good,better or best job,not their fault they just don't have the knowledge,IMHO.

    Now the do know or thing they know,who not to use.

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    I can't speak to your experience, but mine is quite different. People have a very good idea about their work due to home buyer and other professional comments, including home inspectors.

    A satisfied customer is always the best source of a name for a contractor, particularly if you have reason to respect their opinions in other matters.
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    Well we find homeowners all the time that have been using abc company for years and their system was never right,did it cool ,yes,was it installed and operating correctly,absolutely not.

    Examples;

    Impacted coils,and dirty blowers,even though they had annual contracts

    Undersized ducts that educe air flow and sensiable btus output of the equipment.

    Oversized systems

    Under and over charged systems

    Media and other types of filters ,where the system can't handle the static of the filter

    Very poor installs,workmanship wise

    This type of thing is very common,customers just don't know,they know if it heats and cools,few know more then that.

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    Trane and American Standard do not like to sell coil seperate so they raise the price on them.

    Last year I had TWE065 that needed a coil and it cost more for me to get the coil than a new air handler.

    If it were me I would just replace the air handler and then your motor heat strips and coil will all be under warranty for 5 years and you will have a better coil that will meet the 13.0 rating if your condenser goes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dash View Post
    Well we find homeowners all the time that have been using abc company for years and their system was never right,did it cool ,yes,was it installed and operating correctly,absolutely not.

    Examples;

    Impacted coils,and dirty blowers,even though they had annual contracts

    Undersized ducts that educe air flow and sensiable btus output of the equipment.

    Oversized systems

    Under and over charged systems

    Media and other types of filters ,where the system can't handle the static of the filter

    Very poor installs,workmanship wise

    This type of thing is very common,customers just don't know,they know if it heats and cools,few know more then that.
    My point, apparently lost, is that any person who receives a referral from someone who is satisfied has a much better chance of being satisfied as well, compared to some other method of choosing a provider.

    While there are objective differences in any system of which a consumer may not be aware, these shortcomings can and do come to light, more often then they go undetected, as you are implying. Often, these shortcomings come to light on the first service visit. Other times, during a home inspection. The average homeowner changes homes every 7 1/2 years.

    By receiving a referral form a satisfied person, you will find why they are satisfied. It may be a crazy reason, like the Angie's List commercial where the plumber walks the dog. I would never recommend someone using a plumber for his willingness to walk a small dog, but that's up to the person receiving the referral.

    By receiving a referral, you better your chances of getting the good job you want, compared to the word of the company, its advertising, or its salesman.
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