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  1. #14
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    I try to open (not always) the disconnect cover and verify the thing is off or in your case some knucklehead bypassed it. Sometimes the blades don't dis-engage all the way. You can usually tell when you pull the lever something ain't right! I should start popping the pull block type covers too. Just in case!

  2. #15
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    and that's why i use my meter to verify lack of power.

    I turned off a disconnect, almost had my hand on the contactor when the unit fired up....one leg bypassed....that was my wake up call.

  3. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by slctech View Post
    From the bill of lading I know your name, I know what company you work for, I know on 7/13/11 you serviced an old Lennox GCS3 rooftop unit in Bountiful, UT, I know you lied on your work order that you replaced three 60A Buss fuses, I know that your slime, and just know that you almost killed me.
    Someday you will be at the counter at a distributor with a flame sensor in your hand telling them it is bad, because your too stupid to know it can be cleaned, and in mid sentence you will feel a fist in the back of your head.
    Doubt your a member of this site, so it just feels good to talk out loud to the internet world.

    Not in the mood to go into the story right now, maybe after a shot of gin and a good nights sleep, but here is a picture. The mods would probably censor the other picture of the pile of crap that I had to clean out of my under wear.
    I feel your pain. several years ago, I removed six of those same 'fuses' from an elderly woman's electric furnace. I guess copper was cheaper than fuses at the time.

  4. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    Look closer at the pic. L1 T1 is taped
    Ahh didnt see that and def. always confirm that there is no power.

  5. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by TACKERDOWN View Post
    Ahh didnt see that and def. always confirm that there is no power.
    And the other 2 aren't fuses either....

  6. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark beiser View Post
    IMO, bypassing one leg of a disconnect, and leaving it that way for longer than it takes to return with a new disconnect, is attempted murder, and should be prosecuted as such by the state.
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    Roger that

  7. #20
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    Feeling better. Man I was one fired up ombre yesterday.

    Sooooooo..this gets weird and I am at fault here, too for getting relaxed around electricity (460 volt 3 phase).

    New account, very eerie place.

    Do the usual check voltage and I have 208 across all the legs, unit has a 480 to 240 transformer and it is melted and dripping to heck and back. So kill disconnect to get to work, check two of the three legs for power and had nothing, DID NOT CHECK THE THIRD! So put my hand on the back side of that monster transformer to line up my screwdriver and basically was stuck there for about 10 seconds getting juiced.

    Now the scary shiznit is that your brain works just fine and is trying to tell your hand that is wedged in there to "LET GO!" But that flipping electricity just seems to take over and all your muscles just start to clinch down and bind you in place. 6 seconds or so feels like an eternity!

    For some reason my legs were not effected and I simply let my knees go limp and my upper torso with help from gravity ripped me free.

    I think I sat there for about 10 minutes trying to get my hand and fingers to work.

    Went into the basement to find that the main breaker is 200A!!!

    Between almost getting killed with CO this winter and getting a foot closer to God with this fiasco, I think what lives I have are running out.

    Installed new 60A 3 phase box, new 60A Buss Fuses, and added a SquareD 60A 3 pole breaker in a blank spot on the panel in the basement.

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  8. #21
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    Glad you're ok. I would've been pissed too.

  9. #22
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    For having such bad luck, you are one very lucky bastard!

    The guy that did that has no business working in this business. If possible, please find that guy's employer and calmly show him your pictures and explain how you were almost killed because of his actions. He needs to be made aware that it is not ok to do stuff like that. It needs to be found out if he's done anything like this anywhere else around town.

  10. #23
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    I just noticed the 400,000 amp fuse in the middle looks like it got pretty warm too. Its all black.

  11. #24
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    I'm sure everyone here has made an oversite or two in there day. I'm glad that you didn't become a statistic. it always seems to be one of those standard steps that get over looked.

  12. #25
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    Wow. You're lucky to be alive. I usually just check two legs as well to make sure the disconnect disengaged. I'll be checking all three from now on though. And it's funny you should mention Bountiful. I've only seen the copper fuse trick three times, and they were all in Bountiful. Maybe it's the lack of close supply houses?

  13. #26
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    Another one that can fool you is a 3 phase delta with the B phase corner grounded.

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