carrier should be ashamed!!

[acguytx]

put in a new RTU gas package over the winter a few months back and get a call for no cool last week ... get uo on roof and this is what i found, really great line qc inspection carrier..must have been made on friday or monday!!

[vangoghsear]

Hopefully it just dropped straight down and didn't damage the coils on its way. Sheesh.

[socotech]

It's not just Carrier




This condenser fan motor dropped in band mount. Destroyed blade, motor, capacitor, and blew fuses. Shut down entire 50 ton pkg unit. Trane

[Frostmonkey74]

Ouch!

[SgtBone]

We've been having that same problem on our Heil units we have been installing except the squirrel cages are slipping down on the blower motor. Coincidentally the sticker on the blower housing says Carrier.

[RDorr92788]

We just installed a split Trane hp 3 weeks ago. Finnished on a Fri. Recieved a call the following Mon saying the damn thing doesnt work. the fan motor was burnt out already. ofcourse trane didnt have one on the shelf, so we bought one from another supplier to make the customer happy. also seen the Carriers do that fan drop before. i just think qc is on the back burner anymore.

[matt1124]

I was thinking about this same thing this morning tightening down a blade on a Trane. Someone has said "when I have to start checking fan bolts on X brand, thats when I quit selling it" LOL

Have had that same problem with Trane and the belly motor mount. It slowly works it's way down and the blade starts to catch. Why don't they make it a basket like lennox/goodman/everyoneelse

[ckartson]

I do a lot of new equipment startups and If this happens after startup to me I am at fault. One of the tasks is tighten all set screws then a box to check off on the report. Some are not possible to get to wiyhout removal of the fan assembl so I don't check the box on those.

[1SikLBZ]

Thats why we perform a shake down on all equipment before Its started. Its good practice and will save you the trouble later.

[olsons arctic air]

Had a Bryant last summer installed two days later cond. fan blade came off hit compressor discharge line broke and bent fan blade Had to fix copper recharge and replace fan blade Local carrier rep said was my fault did not check all hardware on install

[ldmth44]

Have you guys seen the older York 20 ton condenser fans wriggle there way up and out of the motor brackets? Had a local golf club with a few 15 yr old units do this. If not for the fan guard, who knows what would happen!! Loosened the brackets and let motors fall back into place and retightened, motors moved up appx. 3 inches. Had one motor move up so bad, the wiring actually pulled out of motor (wiring was brittle and weathered, didn't take much to do so), replaced motor and prop.

[codgy]

you might try cleaning the condensers on that york unit.

[firecontrol]

Had a Bryant last summer installed two days later cond. fan blade came off hit compressor discharge line broke and bent fan blade Had to fix copper recharge and replace fan blade Local carrier rep said was my fault did not check all hardware on install

What's the next thing? Send it to us in parts and we build them too?

"Sorry sir, our quote has to include us taking the entire unit apart and putting it back together because the manufacturer can't guarantee their assembly." Wait!? Isn't that covered in a warranty that covers defects in manufacturing or would it be considered assembly?

Can't you just see a new car dealer being told they have to check every bolt and connection in a new vehicle or they have to eat any warranty issues associated with failures due to something coming apart.

[71CHOPS]

most startup sheets include sections for fan/blower set screws etc.....does it happen with residential? usually not. but if you work commercial and that happens, there is no question....you didn't do your job on start up.

[RDorr92788]

most startup sheets include sections for fan/blower set screws etc.....does it happen with residential? usually not. but if you work commercial and that happens, there is no question....you didn't do your job on start up.

Commercial or Residential doesnt matter, the fact is the manufacture is not Q.Cing like they should. IMO

[ra88wfo]

That's the new low ambient kit.

[cavalieri85]

I have caught alot of flack from coworkers on this but i inspect everything before start up. set screws all tight,all electrical tight,compressor and everything and look for anything i can do to make sure system will not have one of these kind of breakdowns. I got in the habit when i was doing pre factory start up for mcquay. They would give you about a million things to check and have power applied with crankcase heaters running before they would come out and hit the on button.

[Miller257]

don't you check all your set screws on startup?

[hvac wiz 79]

1 year old trane rtu.

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[Rodney28334]

Lucky it didnt slice the coil like a spiral ham. Had two Trane Gaf2 Air handlers in a row with loose blower wheel nut on shaft which was found before install because one of the clips that hold the blower housing/cage together fell off, they must have took care of the problem as several since then were all tight from factory. Had a few Heil Carrier blower wheels work way down shaft and ate into the cage/houseing! the blower fins were grinded into razor teeth, had to break wheel apart to get it out. Had to sound unworldly but Home owner didnt notice any previous noise. Worst case was a few goodman condenser units. One was about 2 years old and entire top panel of unit cracked causing fan to go in at an angle and F5'd the copper tubing btw compressor, accumulator, reversing valve and various wiring before finding way into coil. FEMA could have called it a disaster area. We didnt install it, and didnt want to get involved. The other one in same subdivision btw but older, dropped the fan blade but didnt compromise system. Its top louvered panel was also cracked in a few places, which some one used zip ties to try to reinforce it.