zimmerman case started

**chaard** · 05-30-2013, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by exreo

Man, the liberal media hates Zimmerman. Do you think the prosecution will play the race card?

Why not. You've been playing it.

**exreo** · 05-30-2013, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by chaard

Why not. You've been playing it.

Please explain.

The fix is in against Zimmerman:

http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/judge-debras-trayvon-assist/

**meh70087** · 05-30-2013, 04:16 AM

It's all about race and that's what the media wants ! There is black on black crime daily here in south LA and other city's around the country . Nothing is ever made of it because its not a good story. Lets discuss these crimes where people (any race ) are killed for no reason. My best friend happens to be black and he would be the first to tell that blacks tend to be targeted due to their behavior. This is why he does not associate his self with individuals who put a target on his back because of their behavior .

**Elfshadow** · 05-30-2013, 06:08 AM

The sad thing about cases like this is nothing will change. If he is found not guilty those who think he is will hound him thinking that he got off because he is white. If he is found guilty those who think that he is not will rant and rave that he was only convicted because he was white. The worst thing is that these trials are becoming the entertainment for the USA, instead of a place of justice. It really is pointless for us to sit back and armchair quarterback this.

**coolwhip** · 05-30-2013, 08:43 AM

The problem is that if zimmy does not go to jail, the worthless inner city liberals will start their rioting, burning, and looting and elected local liberals may not get that next term in office.

Then the working class have to pay for all the repairs because the worthless inner city libs will biatch that they burned their own town.

**chaard** · 05-30-2013, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by exreo

Treyvon Martin was a walking time bomb and a thug. I don't think there is any doubt about that. He could ruin anybody's day for sure. I know I would never want to cross paths with him... The evidence that Martin was a thug and a "n***** with an attitude".

Originally Posted by exreo

Statistically speaking, yes blacks should be watched a lot closer... There are 3096 blacks in prison/100,000 blacks and there are 370 whites in prison/100,000 whites. The divison is 8.3. blacks have earned their reputation for crime.

Originally Posted by exreo

Please explain.

To summarize, Martin is black, he was a thug and "racial slang", had a criminal history, was likely to end up in prison, statistically, and (my words here) deserved what he got.
That's what I see from your rants.
IMHO, you sound like a racist.

**coolwhip** · 05-30-2013, 10:28 AM

You left out the part when trebone attacked zimmy, which is why trebone is dead. The parts you did mention explain that he had the propensity to commit violent acts and establishes his character. Guns, drugs, poor academics, and a violent temper was his demise. Prison would have been his future demise had he not been shot.

**chaard** · 05-30-2013, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by coolwhip

You left out the part when trebone attacked zimmy, which is why trebone is dead. The parts you did mention explain that he had the propensity to commit violent acts and establishes his character. Guns, drugs, poor academics, and a violent temper was his demise. Prison would have been his future demise had he not been shot.

The difference between your comments and exreo is you didn't blame his actions, past and somewhat present on color.

**chaard** · 05-30-2013, 11:01 AM

It's one thing to say his past caught up with him. It's another to say he deserved it cause he is black.
Some of you despise when the race card is played by blacks, but yet have no problem using race to justify a death sentence.

Race should not be an issue. But since it is being used then Zimmerman will hang for a hate crime.

Neither Zimmermans nor Martins past should be an issue in this case. What matters is what happened on that night only.

If you don't want blacks to call this or any crime a hate crime then don't justify it cause color.

**Brian GC** · 05-30-2013, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by coolwhip

You left out the part when trebone attacked zimmy, which is why trebone is dead. The parts you did mention explain that he had the propensity to commit violent acts and establishes his character. Guns, drugs, poor academics, and a violent temper was his demise. Prison would have been his future demise had he not been shot.

It is either legal to shoot someone under the circumstances or it isn't. Cops get the most leniency when shooting people and they don't even use the "he was black, he had a criminal swagger, look at his text messages, look at his grades, he was wearing a hoodie" defense. They don't use those arguments because they are not relevant to the shooting itself. OTOH isn't relevant that 911 told Zimmerman to stop following Trayvon and he didn't. Because if you follow someone it doesn't give them the right to beat your head into the ground...if that is what happened.

If they can prove through voice analysis that Zimmerman was indeed getting his head beat in to the ground, was on the brink of death and was desperately calling out for help, and only then did he pull out his gun - he should walk. Even if Zimmerman started the fight, it doesn't give Trayvon the right to use deadly force. BUT, if it can be proven that Zimmerman pulled his gun on Trayvon and threatened his life first, Trayvon could use deadly force in return.

**chaard** · 05-30-2013, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Brian GC

Even if Zimmerman started the fight, it doesn't give Trayvon the right to use deadly force..

Seriously? An unarmed man can't defend himself against a guy with a gun?

**Brian GC** · 05-30-2013, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by chaard

Seriously? An unarmed man can't defend himself against a guy with a gun?

Defending yourself does not allow you to use deadly force. However, if Zimmerman brandished his gun prior to the fight or if Trayvon saw the gun he would be allowed to kill Zimmerman, knowing that if Zimmerman got his hands on his gun, he would use it.

That is the downside of CCW. You are a walking deadly weapon with uncertain intentions to the public. Show your weapon to someone during a conflict and they now have the right to use deadly force back upon you.