Page 1 of 5 12345 LastLast
Results 1 to 13 of 53
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Central Indiana
    Posts
    615

    Insurance Companys + Hacks + Cheap Chinese Condensers =

    I have found a rash of this sort of stuff lately. All of them were insurance jobs and all of them are cheap junk condensers installed by a "guy in an unmarked white van" I am not familiar with the brand, the guy is getting them at a local "supply house" that buys chinese condensers by the train car and then sells them to the public.

    The one pictured is a week old. Dry charged unit. Aside from all the terrible installation practices, he brazed it in, opened the valves and walked away. Keep in mind this was a dry charged unit. Needless to say, she is out of commission. Ran for a week strait with a 50psi nitrogen charge in it, no R-22.

    Yesterday, not pictured, I found two units in a million dollar house just like this. House was recently purchased after being in foreclosure for a while. The units were both stolen and then replaced with this junk. Still with the factory nitrogen charge in them.

    Worst part is the insurance company wont pay to fix the fustercluck
    Attached Images Attached Images    
    The only true knowledge is the pursuit of knowledge

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Buffalo NY
    Posts
    3,124
    At least he installed a drier to dry out the dry nitrogen. Lol


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
    Join http://scopeny.org/ Shooter’s Committee on Political Education

    The world is full of sheep,try not to join the flock.

    Support the Skilled Trades, Don't DIY

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    3,856
    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty hvac View Post
    At least he installed a drier to dry out the dry nitrogen. Lol
    That was my first thought when I saw the picture too. lol

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    196
    The one I ran into was lucky, the installer burnt the control wires so it never ran. I am pretty sure they pop these on when the power is off. Don't ask me how they pass inspections.
    Economy - Quality - Speed <---- pick two

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Anderson, South Carolina, United States
    Posts
    7,098
    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis.Moore View Post
    The one I ran into was lucky, the installer burnt the control wires so it never ran. I am pretty sure they pop these on when the power is off. Don't ask me how they pass inspections.
    What inspection.......

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    North Richland Hills, Texas
    Posts
    14,915
    Other than the color and the name, it looks exactly like the Ameristar units Ingersol Rand makes, and sells through American Standard dealers.
    They are surprisingly not terrible...
    If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    NE wisconsin
    Posts
    403
    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty hvac View Post
    At least he installed a drier to dry out the dry nitrogen. Lol


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
    It was on there from the unit that he removed that had a burn out, brazing it back in like that dries it out again so its ok.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    247
    If you could get him on video removing the old ones, there might be a rather hefty pay bonus for you courtesy of the epa...

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    NC Sandhills
    Posts
    409
    Quote Originally Posted by mark beiser View Post
    Other than the color and the name, it looks exactly like the Ameristar units Ingersol Rand makes, and sells through American Standard dealers.
    They are surprisingly not terrible...
    It is the same as ameristar (classy name for a made in china unit), only Trane makes them use a scroll, instead of rotary compressor.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Posts
    24
    You mean the ac guy in the unmarked white van was not a straight shooter? aw man just gave him 5k cash down on my new systems

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Central Indiana
    Posts
    615
    I highly doubt that a permit was even pulled, let alone an inspection. It needed to be redone anyway because one side is literally touching the side of the house. I think I have figured out who is doing them, but I dont think I could ever get proof of it.
    The only true knowledge is the pursuit of knowledge

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    California
    Posts
    89
    Hey cut the installer some slack. At least he can braze well enough for it to hold the nitrogen charge for a week.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Knoxville TN
    Posts
    53
    Some people have no business touching a AC Unit!

Page 1 of 5 12345 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Comfortech Show Promo Image

Related Forums

Plumbing Talks | Contractor Magazine
Forums | Electrical Construction & Maintenance (EC&M) Magazine
Comfortech365 Virtual Event