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02-27-2007, 01:01 AM #1
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HVAC Calc - Window Work Around, cement, ec..)
I'm considering re-buying HVAC-Calc ( I bought it some time ago w/the 2 month version as I built my house). This time to consider insulation and ac/h tightening implications to load. But, it's not really oriented for some of these things. So, a few questions:
1) Any idea how I tell it what r value window shade I'm considering. So much heat flows through a window I'd think this would matter, but it barely acknowledges shades and give no "R" rating. Any idea's how to vary r value's of blinds?
2) What does one use for a poured foundation? It's neither block (airgap) nor ICF...
3) Does it account for fiberglass reduced performance as temp drops? I know it give us R ratings, but fiberglass losses "R" performance as it cools rather significantly...
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02-27-2007, 03:56 AM #2
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Item 3= Wrong
harvest rainwater,make SHADE,R75/50/30= roof/wall/floor, use HVAC mastic,caulk all wall seams!
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02-27-2007, 07:16 AM #3
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U= 1/R
1) U-value of single pane = ~ 1.2
U-value of double pane = 0.3 - 0.8
Get the SHGC (tinting) correct for Your window
Clear 0.7
Light Tint 0.5
HIgh Performance 0.3
Look at PPG website for many windows.
http://corporateportal.ppg.com/NA/Id...ssOverview.htm
Blinds about 20% less.
IE Clear 0.7 without 0.57 with blinds.
Obviously, a large variation.
2) perhaps R-1 or R-2Designer Dan
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02-27-2007, 07:27 PM #4
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CEM-BSEE:
You would be one of the few to think that. But I appreciate the thought anyway.
Dan sw:
I hate to be dense, but I don't see how that tells me the ratings for the existing shade options in HVAC-Calc or a way to add R value for shades to it. Can you clarify?
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02-27-2007, 08:18 PM #5
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Do you know if your windows are tinted? Double pane?
SHGC for blinds would be about 20% less windows.
IE Clear SHGC = 0.70 without blinds
_______SHGC = 0.57 with blinds.
Input in HVAC-Calc is up to you. I use Wrightsoft RSR
SHGC = Solar Heat Gain Coefficient = .875 * SC
__SC = Shading Coefficient
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... but fiberglass losses "R" performance as it {cools < NOT } absorbs moisture rather significantly...
# 3Last edited by dan sw fl; 02-27-2007 at 08:28 PM.
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02-27-2007, 09:27 PM #6
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Ah, not a HVAC-calc user. That explains it. But anyway, double pane.
See, in hvac calc ( the issue at hand) there appears to be no way to enter in the parameters you mention. A simple interface (I assume that's why it's liked). But support is very limited. Don expects the user community to answer most questions....
#3. I didn't follow again. Cryptic mood tonight maybe? anyway, yes, we'd agree it absorbs moisture too, and that is bad as well for it's performance....
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02-28-2007, 06:41 AM #7
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Designer Dan
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02-28-2007, 09:03 PM #8
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Yes, they are. Maybe I wasn't clear. How is the "R" value of the shade set, what is assumed "R" value of the shades that exist, or what is some other way of assigning a "R" value to the shades?
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03-01-2007, 01:26 AM #9
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Check
ASHRAE Fundamentals
or
Chapter 6 Windows & Doors at
http://southface.org/web/resources&s...ders_Guide.pdfDesigner Dan
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03-01-2007, 03:45 AM #10
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OK. Thanks dan.
Anybody else care to comment on how I might be able (WITHIN HVAC-CALC) to assign different "R" values to different window shade treatments?


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