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  1. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsiceman View Post
    No more phosgene gas
    You were never getting any phosgene gas anyway, just a variety of acid vapors!

    I don't know why the phosgene thing bugs me so much, but it's a continuously perpetuated myth in the industry, even by people who know better...
    If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.

  2. #15
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    Terminal venting flash fires, no recovery equipment yet, having to move the equipment outdoors to work on it. Not to mention what it is going to do to a companies liability insurance. I have a feeling this will be around for only a few years and we will be on to something else. I hope they will be using it on small equipment because moving it outdoors is not always an option.

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  3. #16
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    I'm not moving any gdm 49's outside. hope they keep it in the smaller stuff

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  4. #17
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    Thanks Mark

    I had the pleasure of working on some of these a couple of years ago
    Lucky for me it was lighting issues lol
    “If You Can Dodge A Wrench You Can Dodge A Ball”

  5. #18
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    Why would you need recovery equipment for a zero odp and zero greenhouse HC refrigerant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjpwalker View Post
    Why would you need recovery equipment for a zero odp and zero greenhouse HC refrigerant?
    That is a good question, but from what I understand that is exactly the issue, the EPA classifies it as a refrigerant and venting refrigerants is not allowed.


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  7. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjpwalker View Post
    Why would you need recovery equipment for a zero odp and zero greenhouse HC refrigerant?
    To avoid an explosion or fire
    “If You Can Dodge A Wrench You Can Dodge A Ball”

  8. #21
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    Service procedures for R290 and R600a will certainly have some significant differences, so we all need to get geared up for the future.

    Here's an interesting video demonstrating an HC compressor change on a domestic unit without the need of a torch. Check out those Lokring fittings and tools.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXhK8paFtHE

  9. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsiceman View Post
    To avoid an explosion or fire
    A fire from a released 5 oz charge? We've all spilled more than that purging gas lines to a new furnace...

  10. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsiceman View Post
    To avoid an explosion or fire
    Funny


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    Quote Originally Posted by crstephens83 View Post
    Funny


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    My new leak detector Zip-10

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    Experience is what you have an hour after you need it.

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    Luckily in europe its legal to vent hydrocarbon refrigerants .There are limits to the charges allowed in indoor cabinets 1kg in a basement,1.5kg on a shopfloor,2.5kg in a storeroom.thankfully the freezers i work on only have 100grams.Agree about the availability of recovery machines almost non existant,the only one ive seen was big and bulky.

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