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  1. #14
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    ga, put your reading glasses on : ).

  2. #15
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    OK...

    The piece of tape holding the LV wire to the unit looked like a ground clamp... without my glasses...

    I was wondering why a ground wire was run without low voltage...
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    Don't worry, I know I'll be in the same boat someday : ).

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    I am 60 now... just in the last year or so things are not visually 'clear'...

    And glasses are not that much of a help... Guess we cannot live like kids forever... <grin>
    GA-HVAC-Tech

    Galatians 2:20-21; Colossians 1: 21-22 & 26-27; 3:1-4; Romans Ch's 5-6-7-8

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  5. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by phase24 View Post
    Some of those condenser have FD inside the cond.
    Quite a few manufactures are installing lld's inside of condenser, I have seen them installed on the outside and found another inside. Haha

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    I'm not a fan of the mfg's putting the lld's inside the condensers. Really makes it a pain not being able to simple pump down a unit to change the evap/metering device/leak repair and drier externally. Now you have to recover and bend down in there to change the lld.

    On the other side I can see why the mfg's prefer to install them, then atleast they know it's installed properly.

    I like putting my liquid line drier right before my metering device.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEIDexter View Post
    I'm not a fan of the mfg's putting the lld's inside the condensers. Really makes it a pain not being able to simple pump down a unit to change the evap/metering device/leak repair and drier externally. Now you have to recover and bend down in there to change the lld.

    On the other side I can see why the mfg's prefer to install them, then atleast they know it's installed properly.














    I like putting my liquid line drier right before my metering device.
    When the drier is inside the condenser and I pump them down, I do not change the drier. I pull an evacuation to 500 microns and open the service valves.
    Doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    I am 60 now... just in the last year or so things are not visually 'clear'...

    And glasses are not that much of a help... Guess we cannot live like kids forever... <grin>
    I've had to use readers for a few-five years now, but I am still not in the habit of taking them everywhere with me. I have them stashed at various strategic locations thru out the house and of course they are in my shirt pocket when on the job.

    The other night I went to the store without them and coincidently passed right by the readers stand by the pharmacy. I stopped to pick up another spare to stash in the truck and went on with my shopping, which included produce with codes on them instead of bar codes. Of course I went thru the self check out and when it came time to enter those little codes and put the stuff on the scale - I was screwed. I debated asking the girl for help but then remembered I had a brand new pair in the cart.

    So I put them on - complete with the price tag, stiff paper package backing thing and the vinyl carrying case all attached and hanging by my ear. Fortunately, with the need for readers also comes the attitude of "I'm too old to care." But I avoided making eye contact with anyone while I entered my apples, oranges and broccoli...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpb2 View Post
    I always like the liquid drier inside by the evap.
    I'm with jpb2. Most manufactures require LLD installation as close to the metering devise as possible. I should not expect to see the LLD in the pic nor should I expect to see a SLD because they came and removed it like they should!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtinhvac View Post
    I've had to use readers for a few-five years now, but I am still not in the habit of taking them everywhere with me. I have them stashed at various strategic locations thru out the house and of course they are in my shirt pocket when on the job.

    The other night I went to the store without them and coincidently passed right by the readers stand by the pharmacy. I stopped to pick up another spare to stash in the truck and went on with my shopping, which included produce with codes on them instead of bar codes. Of course I went thru the self check out and when it came time to enter those little codes and put the stuff on the scale - I was screwed. I debated asking the girl for help but then remembered I had a brand new pair in the cart.

    So I put them on - complete with the price tag, stiff paper package backing thing and the vinyl carrying case all attached and hanging by my ear. Fortunately, with the need for readers also comes the attitude of "I'm too old to care." But I avoided making eye contact with anyone while I entered my apples, oranges and broccoli...
    I may be a little farther down the 'blind' road... I really HAVE to have the readers with me most of the time. And dim light work is getting harder and harder.
    I prefer 'half' lenses rather than full lenses. I will set them low on my nose (which increases the magnification a little. That way I can look over them easily and then through them when I need to.
    Seems I am looking through them more and more... I really do not like this...

    I found a local 'junk store' that has readers in various powers for $3... they are better than the usual WallyWorld offerings... so I bought a few each of 1.5 and 1.75. The lower ones are for general use, the higher ones for that itty-bitty print the Chinese are famous for.

    I guess I should see an eye doc and get some real glasses... however I hear when one starts wearing them all the time the eyes go downhill fast... trying to avoid that. I am a pilot (well Sunny-Sunday)... I really do NOT want my vision to go down far enough I am grounded... flying (in my case a gyro-plane) is really fun!

    Back on topic: I prefer my LL dryer at the metering device also... and I really do NOT like them pre-installed. I understand the manufacturer's view... however IMO if they worry about sloppy cheap installs... then put them in the builder grade... but NOT in the better grade. I told the tech folks that at a recent Spring meeting... they just looked at me.
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    What's the benefit in having it closer to the metering device? Better protection?

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    There's a couple reasons, one is that having the drier at the metering device puts it inside and out of the elements thus keeping it from rusting out and leaking. The other is based on the idea that you will start the unit in a/c mode, the closer the drier is to the indoor coil the more likely it will be to catch anything that is in your line, copper shavings, bits of dirt.

  13. #26
    Driers, disconnect, isopads, strap.

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