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  1. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayguy View Post
    and the chiller vintage has a 'known issue' with the motor that i wasn't supposed to find out about (from Trane) and then i wasn't supposed to tell them.

    i don't take care of it anymore now that i have 'left the building'!
    I don't work on anything that big, yet, but I do know that when someone pulls me aside and says hey don't tell the customer about "x" I usually don't want anypart of being involved in the situation. Hate it when people try to put you in a spot like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comoutsid322 View Post
    Im 23 years old, only 2 years and 4 month experience. 2 years of school, and 4 months of residential.
    Most companys here are private... Where do i startt an apprentiship, there isnt a union here for technicians, only sheet metal workers.
    That explains this post.
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  3. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by comoutsid322 View Post
    Why doesnt it appear to be for me?
    You seem more concerned about travel, heights, pay, having somebody lead you to everything. No offense, but you are typical of your generation. The HVAC trade, no matter what niche you are in, is not for the unmotivated. If you get into the field, you will need to spend hours of your OWN time learning. Nobody is going to hand you anything in this trade.
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  4. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlsInMT View Post
    You seem more concerned about travel, heights, pay, having somebody lead you to everything. No offense, but you are typical of your generation. The HVAC trade, no matter what niche you are in, is not for the unmotivated. If you get into the field, you will need to spend hours of your OWN time learning. Nobody is going to hand you anything in this trade.
    Not all in there 20s year olds are as you describe. I have some top notch young techs working for my company, very eager, very motivated and a fantastic asset to the company. They don't deserve to be painted with the same broad brush

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    Quote Originally Posted by LKJoel View Post
    Not all in there 20s year olds are as you describe. I have some top notch young techs working for my company, very eager, very motivated and a fantastic asset to the company. They don't deserve to be painted with the same broad brush
    I agree, but I would call them atypical. They are out there, just few and far in between!
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  6. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by ControlsInMT View Post
    You seem more concerned about travel, heights, pay, having somebody lead you to everything. No offense, but you are typical of your generation. The HVAC trade, no matter what niche you are in, is not for the unmotivated. If you get into the field, you will need to spend hours of your OWN time learning. Nobody is going to hand you anything in this trade.
    You make it seem like im unmotivated. You dont know me, how i learn, let alone how i work.... And i can say your typical of your generation, making assumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlsInMT View Post
    You seem more concerned about travel, heights, pay, having somebody lead you to everything. No offense, but you are typical of your generation. The HVAC trade, no matter what niche you are in, is not for the unmotivated. If you get into the field, you will need to spend hours of your OWN time learning. Nobody is going to hand you anything in this trade.
    Most of us in the generation that aren't that way understand completely what you're saying and we aren't offended by it. They are what they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan1088 View Post
    Most of us in the generation that aren't that way understand completely what you're saying and we aren't offended by it. They are what they are.
    I guess it's like everything else in life, the loud mouths are the ones that get noticed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    That explains this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by comoutsid322 View Post
    You make it seem like im unmotivated. You dont know me, how i learn, let alone how i work.... And i can say your typical of your generation, making assumptions.
    On the contrary, it is your posts that make you seem unmotivated, always looking for the short cut. The post Beenthere referenced on the other thread about leak detection is exactly what I was referring to. Rather than do it right, you stated you would "take the short cut" and try to convince the customer they need a new unit. That is another reason this trade has suffered some black eyes, "technicians" condemning their equipment rather than trying to fix it.
    Last edited by ControlsInMT; 04-25-2013 at 02:29 PM. Reason: another thought
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    The hyper defensive attitude is also typical.

    It stems from the emphasis on self image in public school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan1088 View Post
    Most of us in the generation that aren't that way understand completely what you're saying and we aren't offended by it. They are what they are.
    Yep, I'm 26 and every time I interview I make it known right off the bat that I'm not like the 20 something year olds they are used to. We have a bad rep, unfortunately. The good thing is everyone else thinks I'm in my 30's until they find out my birth year.

    If I hadn't of decided to put it in my profile I don't think anyone here would have ever thought I was 26 from my posts but I put it in just to try and change some perceptions a little.

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    What I didn't like the most was when I was in my 20's how I felt like the customer didn't buy in that I knew what I was doing. I have a good enough reputation now with most of the customers that they are glad to see me, which I am thankful for.

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