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    UA Local 787 - Finding work

    Hello all.

    I just got accepted into the HVACR union in Ontario and I would like to know how long it took you guys to find a job?

    I have contacted some companies asking if they are hiring and it hasn't gotten me far (yet) and my other option is to sit back and wait for someone to hire me off the "available to work" list I am on.

    My info:
    I am a 23 year old G3 (perusing my G2) with no direct HVAC experience but I AM a part of the UA Local 787 as of a few days ago

    So.. Has anyone played the waiting game and if so, how did that work for you?

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    not familiar with you area,however, when the weather breaks the hall will empty. then you will have your chance to prove yourself and find a steady job.
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    how on earth did you manage to get to 787 with just a g3?
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    what's a G3 or a G2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChillerMan View Post
    what's a G3 or a G2?
    gas ticket qualification in ontario. G3= limited to cleaning furnaces, and gas piping, cannot do initial activation. G2= do whatever you want within the codes, but limited to 400 MBH. G1 = limitless BTU, industrial process gas, district heating, etc within the scope of the certificate. Only gas portion and related gas equipment and immidiate component that would affect the system operation.
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    you may be on the list for years (sorry for the bad news)

    787 takes on newbies and then they sit for a long time, I went through the same thing and was called by a company 2 years later ( I even had a G2 when I was put on the list), when they called I was working for an open shop and the experience I was getting was much better then the filter changer position they offered me, so I declined the offer. I wouldn't sit around waiting for a union job, if you want to work in this trade get out and start looking for a job, union or not.

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    Hello, I have G3 and about 18 months of experience in this trade. I got the opportunity to get on UA local 787 apprentice waiting list in January of this year (2013). I have tried to get in some small companies but nothing yet. I will wait until they call me from the union I guess because there doesn't seem to be much in jobs out there in the GTA.

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    Anyone know if I can do a self study for this trade?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanHVACR View Post
    Hello all.

    I just got accepted into the HVACR union in Ontario and I would like to know how long it took you guys to find a job?

    I have contacted some companies asking if they are hiring and it hasn't gotten me far (yet) and my other option is to sit back and wait for someone to hire me off the "available to work" list I am on.

    My info:
    I am a 23 year old G3 (perusing my G2) with no direct HVAC experience but I AM a part of the UA Local 787 as of a few days ago

    So.. Has anyone played the waiting game and if so, how did that work for you?

    Hi there,

    What are the actual steps you took to get into the Local 787?
    I have my Red Seal in Refrigeration and Air Conditioning, I have a two year HVACR diploma and six years of actual trade experience. I would like to get into this union but their website is not very clear on how, they have a place for applying to be an apprentice but no spot for qualified technicians. Can anyone here point me in the right direction.

    Thank you.

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    As a member of UA Local 211 I am unaware of any qualified service techs not working. Here when you get accepted you go through the 5 year apprenticeship. After that you "Breakout". Then you are a Tradesman and work your way to Journeyman. While you are an apprentice you cannot change your employer. Once you Breakout you can work for whomever you like. You might try making some connections with whichever Union Contractor you are familiar with. If that goes well, they can call up the Hall and request you. Good Luck Brother.

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    Thank you for your reply, thats what I am curious about. It feels to me that you have to have a connection to get in. I just want to be informed before I make any phone calls, I don't want to sound ignorant when I do decide to call. I will start Networking but if there is anyone else that is a member of 787 I would appreciate your time and thanks again to anyone that can help me out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RACMT View Post
    Hi there,

    What are the actual steps you took to get into the Local 787?
    I have my Red Seal in Refrigeration and Air Conditioning, I have a two year HVACR diploma and six years of actual trade experience. I would like to get into this union but their website is not very clear on how, they have a place for applying to be an apprentice but no spot for qualified technicians. Can anyone here point me in the right direction.

    Thank you.
    To get into 787 as a journeyman it's the same as getting in as an already 'registered apprentice', you have to find a potential job with a union contractor first, then the employer has to prove to the union that they can't find the skill sets you have within the unemployed members of 787 and that is why they are looking externally, this is a daunting task that most employers just dont bother with, not impossible to get in but not easy either. If you don't have your G1 then get it, your chances will increase.
    Last edited by jrmech; 06-29-2013 at 11:15 AM.

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    you better read the rules for apprenticeship before you go too much further.....

    apprentices are generally not allowed to solicit work......all work is coordinated by the head of training and the BA.

    it's nice to be gung-ho about getting a job, but you are now part of a larger entity that has rules and regs. to help ALL members........educate yourself on what the process is, then find ways to work within it to accomplish your goals.

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