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  1. #14
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    I repair a lot of them.
    Quote Originally Posted by EEAllen View Post
    what do you guys think of Beverage Air

  2. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodman318 View Post
    Hi Guys,

    Going back in the restaurant business after 20 years of being smart.

    I want to buy new 23 cu ft reach in fridge/freezer but I'm on a budget of $3-4,000 for both. I'm confused by all the new brands, are all the Korean made brands junk? Is True as bad as they say?

    What brand do you guys think is the best value in my price range?

    Thanks!!!
    Traulsen are worse for working on, yet overall they are a fine reach in. I actually like True. They make a fine reach in, which is easier to work on if you will be doing your own maintenance. I find parts cheaper and usually on hand without having to wait for them to arrive. Obviously, things like evap fans are often the same for each of them. I am out of Jackson, TN and Knoxville is only slightly beyond anywhere I do work. I was discussing doing work in Maryville, yet it was just to far. My point is that I am familiar with your area, though I don't actually do any work that far east.

  3. #16
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    Wow just checked the True site and they are making units marketed for resi. I wonder if they are still US made and who is gonna fix them.
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  4. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by EEAllen View Post
    what do you guys think of Beverage Air
    I've got a number of R12 units still out there that are still running. The 134a units are no better than True.
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  5. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodman318 View Post
    are all the Korean made brands junk? Is True as bad as they say?

    Performance wise they work fine, but the construction is cheap. The metal is so thin that after a year of kitchen use they look 10 years old with all the dents. Also many of the edges are VERY sharp due to the thin metal. The last turboaire I worked on was made in China, not even Korea.

  6. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by craig1 View Post
    Performance wise they work fine, but the construction is cheap. The metal is so thin that after a year of kitchen use they look 10 years old with all the dents. Also many of the edges are VERY sharp due to the thin metal. The last turboaire I worked on was made in China, not even Korea.
    How good are the 601 Sub Zero units? Reliability and repair?

    Found a pair (fridge/freezer) of 2002 models.

  7. #20
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    I know nothing about Hoshizaki.

    I'm a big Traulsen fan - I have a two door Traulsen reach-in freezer that has been running for 29 years. Replaced both fan last December.

    $50.00 in maintenance cost in 29 years I think that's pretty good!

    But, like 2sac wrote you have to keep you coil clean

    I also have three Traulsen reach-in fridges (one two doors and two single doors) - One is 29 years old but was converted from R22 to 134a about 10 years ago because the original compressor would not hold the new 38 requirement (did well at 41)

    My 6x10 walk-in freezer is a Vollrath, 21 years and only changed 2 evap fan and one comp fan.

    I'll stay away from cheap stuff - You might save initially but lose on maintenance cost.

  8. #21
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    I have a sales rep that wants me to push Everest equipment.
    Says copeland components and good warranty. (I think he said 5yr comp, 3yr labor???)
    I've never seen one in use!
    Any familiarity?

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  9. #22
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    Everest is Korean made. Can't stand working on them. Run away and find a different sales rep.
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  10. #23
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    here in NYC, many small restaurants buy Leader brand, which is crap, sometimes they undersized the compressor, and soemtimes they don't leave room for the condenser to cool, like those beer coolers where they KNOW it's going to go in a confine space under the bar, they push the condenser all the way to the back, leaving very little room. Stay away from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodman318 View Post
    How good are the 601 Sub Zero units? Reliability and repair?

    Found a pair (fridge/freezer) of 2002 models.
    Is this a residential unit? They don't allow it in commercial kitchens in some places.
    Any place for auctions buy you? A guy I know just picked up a working late model 1dr Traulsen freezer for three tacos
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  12. #25
    Yes, the SZs were residential units, just wanted to know if they are as good as the hype. No equipment restrictions that I know of here in TN but I'll check.

    I wanted to buy new but maybe I'll find some auctions and see what's available in used Traulsen or Continental.

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    Most resi units will not keep up with the door opening and closing in a typical restaurant.
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