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    Quote Originally Posted by kefah View Post
    my question to you
    at which year was the ancient Greek civilazation
    from which year to which year
    Look it up.

    You could infer the approximate years from all my previous post showing where in ancient Greek times they knew already what you thought the Koran told for the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlsInMT View Post
    If you are offended, that is your problem nobody else's. The definition of crusade was given to you. You choose to view it differently. I would say you are the one making it an issue. Your proclaimation of Allah being God is offensive to some, yet you ignore them and continue to say it. What is the difference?
    ok i will choose to view it differently
    but will not make any problem
    but the media
    will show it as problem
    and then


    terrorist group will make criminal attack

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermophysics View Post
    Look it up.

    You could infer the approximate years from all my previous post showing where in ancient Greek times they knew already what you thought the Koran told for the first time.
    answer with out dodging

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    Quote Originally Posted by kefah View Post
    ok i will choose to view it differently
    but will not make any problem
    but the media
    will show it as problem
    and then


    terrorist group will make criminal attack
    So how about the second part? Your devotion to Allah offends some people, are you going to stop? I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kefah View Post
    answer with out dodging
    Look it up.

    Search of Ancient Greece on Wikipedia.

    Really, you need to learn to look further than the Koran - use this opportunity to look for possible answers or just plain facts in places other than the Koran.

    Look it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlsInMT View Post
    So how about the second part? Your devotion to Allah offends some people, are you going to stop? I don't think so.
    can you explain more

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    Quote Originally Posted by kefah View Post
    so when u know that these word are offensive to somebody
    why you use it
    as example i see the burning og us flag is offensive to us people
    so i deny that and ask the people a round me not to do that
    really some of my friend released that
    and they abandoned this work

    so to american and west
    you know really that its offensive to Muslims to abuse their god or their prophet
    so the terrorist will make it an argument for acting criminal attack


    why you doing that
    to solve the problem
    find the cause
    treat it
    and every thing will be ok
    In a perfect world everyone would be sweet as honey to each other. In the real world people are going to speak their mind. Its much better to speak, argue, debate, discuss and even say what might be considered offensive to people than it is to kill them. I mentioned in a previous post what someone might think is offensive, someone else thinks is just conversation. In America and most civilized places freedom of speech is paramount.

    Now when like you say the terrorists use our freedom of speech as an excuse to attack us, I agree its probably just an excuse. They already hate us and dont need much of an excuse to attack. whether someone makes fun of Mohammed or not the ones that hate us will find an excuse to attack us. But most in the world would agree that Islam needs to step into the modern world and respect freedom of speech if Islam want to be respected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newoldtech View Post
    In a perfect world everyone would be sweet as honey to each other. In the real world people are going to speak their mind. Its much better to speak, argue, debate, discuss and even say what might be considered offensive to people than it is to kill them. I mentioned in a previous post what someone might think is offensive, someone else thinks is just conversation. In America and most civilized places freedom of speech is paramount.

    Now when like you say the terrorists use our freedom of speech as an excuse to attack us, I agree its probably just an excuse. They already hate us and dont need much of an excuse to attack. whether someone makes fun of Mohammed or not the ones that hate us will find an excuse to attack us. But most in the world would agree that Islam needs to step into the modern world and respect freedom of speech if Islam want to be respected.

    i said problem not in islam
    its in some muslim who not understand it properly

    then you cal the scoffing of other is free speech
    no its not free speech

    see what islam said about scoffing

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    Quote Originally Posted by kefah View Post

    i said problem not in islam
    its in some muslim who not understand it properly

    then you cal the scoffing of other is free speech
    no its not free speech

    see what islam said about scoffing

    so to american and west
    you know really that its offensive to Muslims to abuse their god or their prophet
    so the terrorist will make it an argument for acting criminal attack


    why you doing that
    to solve the problem
    find the cause
    treat it
    and every thing will be ok
    By saying that the terrorists use it as an excuse to attack. And that we should stop saying things that may offend them. Your answer is DEFENDING THE TERRORISTS. You should be just condemning the attacking terrorists and not be so worried about just words. Maybe there is just too big a void between most of the modern world which highly values all free speech and the Islamic world which can't handle it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newoldtech View Post
    By saying that the terrorists use it as an excuse to attack. And that we should stop saying things that may offend them. Your answer is DEFENDING THE TERRORISTS. You should be just condemning the attacking terrorists and not be so worried about just words. Maybe there is just too big a void between most of the modern world which highly values all free speech and the Islamic world which can't handle it.
    I don't know if they can handle it, but they certainly don't understand the definition of free speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlsInMT View Post
    I don't know if they can handle it, but they certainly don't understand the definition of free speech.
    if we cannot handle free speech
    you misunderstand it
    tell me is that necessary to give the enemy argument to attack us
    as example


    if burning the american flag is making US attack us
    then it will be wisly to abandoning these acts
    to prevent the war

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    Quote Originally Posted by kefah View Post
    if we cannot handle free speech
    you misunderstand it
    tell is that necessary to give the enemy argument to attack us
    as example


    if burning the american flag is making US attack us
    then it will be wisly to abandoning these acts
    to prevent the war
    Burning the US flag does not get the US to attack. Our own people, as much as I don't like it, have the right to burn our flag. That is free speech. Period. You can't seem to grasp that concept. Free speech means being able to say anything no matter who it offends. Most people with common sense realize it is just a bunch of words and they do not hurt, nor do they change my beliefs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newoldtech View Post
    By saying that the terrorists use it as an excuse to attack. And that we should stop saying things that may offend them. Your answer is DEFENDING THE TERRORISTS. You should be just condemning the attacking terrorists and not be so worried about just words. Maybe there is just too big a void between most of the modern world which highly values all free speech and the Islamic world which can't handle it.
    no man
    we denying the terrorist attck
    ok
    then when me and my frioends in iraq alert the people from terror
    they will release that they must not support these terrorist

    but when bush said it crusade
    and other will abuse prophet Muhammad
    the terrorist will make it an argument to make people support them
    to make terrorist attack
    we must corporate to wipe out terror

    then my question
    what bush
    and who abused prophet Muhammad
    will gain
    they will make the terrorism be most powerful

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