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    Having a state income tax doesn't bother us...remember...we are from Illinois...the state where they tax you for everything and you get nothing in return for it...unless you live in Chicago!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigjoe View Post
    Sounds great. I'm from the central FL area and apparently, were the lowest paid area out of the state (compared to north, west, and south FL) and apparently, work is not as good as it is compared to those places. I wish I had enough experience to take my skills and just leave

    We really considered Florida. I was even offered a teaching job there...but after a lot of careful research and talking with some friends that are teachers there we decided against it.

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    have you tried internationally..... There is lots of work in northern Alberta in oil field service....Checkout local 488's website.. I believe they do hire international workers. A lot of it is camp work....your husband can work 14 days in and have 14 days out. this could mean you dont have to move the family.

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    Also consider The larger cities in the carolinas.

    Any place that has hot humid summers, and cold winters is ideal for HVAC companies.

    You stay plenty busy in summer, you have good furnace work in winter, plenty of IAQ opportunities with humid AND dry conditions, and maintenance
    plans with 2 visits per year are easy sells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by motherto6kids View Post
    Having a state income tax doesn't bother us...remember...we are from Illinois...the state where they tax you for everything and you get nothing in return for it...unless you live in Chicago!
    Hey!! Then Southern California would be perfect! Nothing would change except you both would be working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    ...but you are talking about maybe 5% of the HVAC industry in Illinois, right?
    I guess. I work for Trane. We're probably the only non-union shop in the Chicagoland area, and we're swamped. I'm working 6-12 hours OT every week. More if I wanted to.

    I guess being union isn't all it's cracked up to be uh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by motherto6kids View Post
    We live in Central Illinois. Wish I could say that my husband is working like you are in Chicago!! Around here most people in this industry are still laid off of work. I can't tell you the number of times he has been told by a potential employer that the work just isn't there anymore. Or how they used to have 10 people as techs and now have 2. And...I will never live in Chicago!! It is a nice place to visit but I would not want to live there.
    I don't live in Chicago either. I'm 30 miles West of it. Just sayin' you don't have to move out of state to find work. Unless you hate Illinois.

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    I feel for you. I'm in Columbus, OH. I was recently laid off, BUT I'm turning down pretty good offers because I'm shooting for a great one. Columbus dealt with the recession better than any city in Ohio and much of the US. Lots of non-union shops hiring now thru June. A few union shops too. It'd be a lot closer to home, if that's important to you. You don't have to go where it's hot year round to stay busy. We also use gas heat, something they don't know much about down south. ;-) Depending upon his experience he could make some pretty decent cheese. My wife stays home with our two girls. If you're interested in Columbus, let me know and I'll see what I can do for you guys.

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    To the original post. I can speak from personal experiance here. I too was living about 30 miles west of chicago. I got tired of the politics and bs of Illinois. So I moved to Texas, because my wife has family in Austin. Its been 9 months, and we cant stand it, so once our lease is up we are going home. There is plenty of AC work to be had in texas. But, unless you love traffic, roads that run in circles, hippis, homeless beggars at every corner, and snotty college kids, then stay as far away from Austin.

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    It seems like you want it both ways. You cant have all the bennifits such as bountiful work living in the middle of nowhere as you will near a city center such as Chicago. Another reality check is that any area that has bountiful work will be a large city, that will contain all of the crap you wish to avoid in Chicago.

    Now if your husband has real talent anr skill he can make his own work anywhere. Including where you currently live. He may just have to expand what he is willing to do for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChillerMan View Post
    I guess. I work for Trane. We're probably the only non-union shop in the Chicagoland area, and we're swamped. I'm working 6-12 hours OT every week. More if I wanted to.

    I guess being union isn't all it's cracked up to be uh?
    I suppose it's who you are. For you, that's fine. It's good to be in the 5%. I applaud you.

    However, the majority of the commercial retail market segment makes about 50% of what you make. In many parts of the country, having a union employer is how you make decent money. The problem with towns like Philly is when the construction stops, hundreds of union jobs evaporate. It happened a few years ago when they finished Citizens Bank Park and Lincoln Financial Field, just a few short years after the (now) Wachovia Center replaced the Spectrum.

    Some 200 - 250 LU 420 guys are still waiting for another building wave. Unfortunately for them, the guys they were told to vote for have the country being unwilling to build or do much of anything, because they don't know what their costs will be. So, all that private investment money is on the sideline, and there is no longer any public money to start a new wave of schools or other public structures.

    If enough people vote for pro-growth, the industry will benefit. If we continue to vote pro-socialism, we won't. It's that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    I suppose it's who you are. For you, that's fine. It's good to be in the 5%. I applaud you.
    I can see his head growing even bigger, dont feed it more or will explode

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    Quote Originally Posted by valdelocc View Post
    I can see his head growing even bigger, dont feed it more or will explode
    That's okay. It's good to have things to which we aspire. Would I like to be in the top 5% or HVAC guys? As Gov. Palin said, "you betcha!"

    I'm also a firm believer in the labor market providing feedback to employers, whether they be union or not. If kids coming out of HVAC school refused to work for low wages, and employers could not fill positions at those rates, then wages would tend to rise.

    Of course, the business model has to contain enough flexibility for that to happen, ergo, we have an entire market segment that has identified technician skill in repairing systems as not having as much value as selling replacement systems, and the "sales technician" was born.

    In commercial, this is a disaster, ergo, the limited lifespan of a program like NAS.

    Guys who are considering this trade need to fully inform themselves of the various dynamics AND requirements as they decide which direction they will take in supporting themselves and their families.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valdelocc View Post
    I can see his head growing even bigger, dont feed it more or will explode
    I wasn't bragging. My point was that in one of the worst states in the country, jobs are available for very high wages.

    It is up to each and every person to better their own situation. Trane is hiring, you can do it too!

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