As a democrat I hate to say it but, if the best that the dems can do is Hillary or Obama or possibly both , then I will be voting for McCAin or just not voting at all. If the Dem leadership is so stupid to think that either a woman or a black man stands any chance of winning a national election then it is time to disassociate myself with such ignorant people and become an independent, an independent that will be right leaning if either one of these two get the nomination.My gut feeling is that Kerry will run again despite his latest statements saying he won't. He has set himself up well to reenter the race if the war contiues to escalate. or if it doesn't. He has a large bankroll left over from the last one and I believe he will spend this year letting these others fight it out in public so he can then reenter and get a lot free publicity and democratic support because by the end of this year the other candidates will have beat each other to death and he will be there to pick up the pieces and grab the nomination with a fresh start, there is no way this guy has quit they will be begging him to run against McCain in 08' Just ,my opinion.