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    HVAC Proposal - No clue what I'm reading

    All,

    I recently received a proposal for a new HVAC system to be placed in my 2-story home. I am clueless when it comes to HVAC systems and could use some help reviewing this proposal. Does it look like a good system, something missing, questions I should ask them? It also mentions accessories, should I be getting any of these?
    Thanks in advance for any help I may get.

    Proposal:

    RHEEM m# RARL048JEZ 16 SEER 2-STAGE environmentally friendly 410A refrigerant 4-ton condenser.
    RHEEM m# RCFNHM4824CC cooling coil.
    RHEEM m# RGPE12EARMR 120,000 BTU input 2-STAGE, Variable speed furnace 80% AFUE

    FREIGHT & DELIVERY:
    Removal and disposal of existing boiler and pipes in basement area. Furnace and coil to be installed in basement area (equipment may need to be suspended horizontally due to restricted height). Aprilaire m# 1410 MERV 11 filter installed at furnace. Heavy-duty condensate pump installed for condensate removal. Condensing unit to be placed on re-enforced base on roof. Necessary refrigerant piping as needed to complete installation. Aprilaire zone damper system installed to separate 1st and 2nd floor into two zones. Sheet metal trunk lines installed for each separate zone with balancing dampers on each branch run. All necessary electrical wiring as needed to complete installation. (2) Digital programmable clock thermostats installed, one for each zone. Raintight disconnect box installed for condensing unit. Square directional flow registers to be used in all rooms with damper control. Registers to be offset from center of ceiling. Centrally located return grill installed on 1st floor and 2nd floor. NOTE: all sheetrock repairs to be done by others after work is complete.
    Price does not include rigging of condenser to roof.

    Two-year labor guarantee, Five-year parts warranty (parts warranty upgraded to ten-years with product registration), Ten-year compressor warranty, Limited lifetime warranty on heat exchanger.
    Two-year maintenance contract included with new installation.

    We propose hereby to furnish material and labor complete in accordance with the above specifications for the sum of:
    Twenty three thousand five hundred seventy five twenty five dollars……………$
    Accessories:

    Installation of Aprilaire by-pass humidifier with above installation…. $
    Installation of Aprilaire MERV 13 Media filter.…………….……..…$
    Installation of Honeywell electronic air cleaner…………….…….…..$
    Installation of Aprilaire m#5000 EAC with media filter…………..…$
    Installation of UV-light…………..…………………………………….$
    Performance Plus extended 10 year labor warranty……………………$
    Last edited by BaldLoonie; 03-28-2013 at 12:18 PM. Reason: removed pricing

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    Why are you having the boiler replaced?
    An answer without a question is meaningless.
    Information without understanding is useless.
    You can lead a horse to water............
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    Quote Originally Posted by tipsrfine View Post
    Why are you having the boiler replaced?
    Actually, that must be an error. I don't see why I would need that. They probably mean the old furnace and some unused expansion tanks I have in my basement.
    Thanks for pointing this out.

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    Why are they setting the condenser on the roof. I always thought that looks so ugly having a unit sit on the roof. Why can't they set the condenser at ground level? Is that and eastern U.S. guideline?

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    Don't think it is a guidline. May be to safe space in backyard, which is rather smallish?

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    moonboy first and foremost edit your post to remove the pricing, as that is a violation of the site rules, sandtrap, this is the AOP section, unless you have the asterisk by your name, you really shouldn't be answering post in AOP, a mod will be along shortly and will remove the answers given. keep this in mind as future violations may result in a suspension of posting ability

    we haven't seen the job therefore we cant give opinions on the pricing, as far as everything else goes it looks as if the contractor quoting the job has given you a detailed list of his recommendations. have you only got one estimate or have you had another contractor to come and quote the job also?
    Last edited by hvacman14; 03-28-2013 at 10:54 AM. Reason: more info
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    hvacman14, thanks for reply
    sorry about that, I'm trying to edit my post but there seems to be no option for this?

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    no problem moon, on the bottom of your post there should be a selection of edit post, reply, reply with quote click on edit post, then remove the pricing and then put pricing removal in the reason box, click save and the edit should done
    The 2008 NATE TOP TECH!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacman14 View Post
    no problem moon, on the bottom of your post there should be a selection of edit post, reply, reply with quote click on edit post, then remove the pricing and then put pricing removal in the reason box, click save and the edit should done
    no edit post button for me, i just wrote the forum organizers to remove the pricing
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacman14 View Post
    no problem moon, on the bottom of your post there should be a selection of edit post, reply, reply with quote click on edit post, then remove the pricing and then put pricing removal in the reason box, click save and the edit should done
    Post reported. We'll see what happens.
    In terms of the HVAC proposal, I am waiting for 2 more to come in. Will have something to compare it to then. Any thoughts so far?
    thanks

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    you really need two or more quotes to compare, from the looks of it though, the contractor you have has quoted like I would,
    The 2008 NATE TOP TECH!!!!!

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    specify what model number/brand of condensate pump to be installed instead of heavy duty (nitpicking)

    Refrigerant piping Usually equals Lineset and in a lineset the suction line comes preinsulated liquid line does not. is this the case?

    Raintight disconnect box....no mention of a fusible disconnect which it should be.

    No mention of Permit...permit costs costs or the pulling of a permit with the local jurisdiction.

    Why an 80% why not a 90%? Where are you located?

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    choose which filter system you want to

    Determine your filtering needs.... I would suggest to keep it simple with the merv 11.

    We use to install the honeywell electronic filter but found that consumers wouldn't wash it on a regular basis thereby rendering it ineffective. at any rate be comfortable with what you are using...or purchase the 10 year labor warranty.

    The ecm motor will fail if the filter isn't maintained regularly and properly

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