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  1. #14
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    Great, now I'm going to have nightmares about getting a call from our reclaimer informing us that they will be charging us for destroying 200# of mixed R-22, instead of cutting us a check for $1200.
    If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark beiser View Post
    Great, now I'm going to have nightmares about getting a call from our reclaimer informing us that they will be charging us for destroying 200# of mixed R-22, instead of cutting us a check for $1200.
    With all your investments into electronic equipment mark go ahead and get a neutronics identifier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBKold View Post
    Have your customers call me I have plenty of it and plan on being stingy with virgin and recycling it for my customers when it doesnt have to be totally replaced. Yes I can even clean up burned out stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBKold View Post
    With all your investments into electronic equipment mark go ahead and get a neutronics identifier.
    I've been very seriously considering getting the mini identifier, that does R-22 only. I may even be able to weasel my way into getting a Bachrach branded one at distributor cost, which is around $500.
    If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark beiser View Post
    I've been very seriously considering getting the mini identifier, that does R-22 only. I may even be able to weasel my way into getting a Bachrach branded one at distributor cost, which is around $500.
    I found a Ford rotunda diagnostic tool from 1999 NOS on ebay for $200.

    Made by Neutronics. It doesnt id everything but it does r22, 134a, and 12. It will tell me if its mixed or high air%. Or if hydrocarbons are present like that propane stuff.

  6. #19
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    the new prices on r22 make new 410 equipment sell easier
    We really need change now

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    Just please be carefull of capicty reduction when you don't use R22

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alliednox View Post
    Just please be carefull of capicty reduction when you don't use R22
    Or, maybe more important, inform the customer!
    LN

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    Dupont has R-22 to ISCEON M099 retrofit guidelines located on their website. It appears to have all the answers to any questions, but as noted by others above I don't think mixing any freons are recamended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catmanacman View Post
    the new prices on r22 make new 410 equipment sell easier
    My thoughts.

    It is time to retire R-22 and the equipment which uses it.

    IMO a pro would be doing the customer a favor by upgrading them to 410... there is more value to the customer in a new 410 system with a parts warranty.
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  11. #24
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    Originally Posted by mark beiser
    Great, now I'm going to have nightmares about getting a call from our reclaimer informing us that they will be charging us for destroying 200# of mixed R-22, instead of cutting us a check for $1200.



    Exactly what I was about to post.

  12. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    My thoughts.

    It is time to retire R-22 and the equipment which uses it.

    IMO a pro would be doing the customer a favor by upgrading them to 410... there is more value to the customer in a new 410 system with a parts warranty.
    Not when the equipment is less than 10 years.

    And does this also mean a pro won't use an R22 dry unit?

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    That is a great point. Let the customer make that decision

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