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    Felon friendly employers

    I have a felony conviction from March 2010. To make matters worse, I have to register as a sex offender. The police found a couple files on my computer that contained images of people under the age of 18.... anyway, you know what Im saying. I have completed a two year therepy program, two semesters of full time college, 6 years military (prior to conviction), wife and 4 kids. I am about to start hvac class next month, as I have no technical knowledge of any skilled trade. I am extremely nervous about even doing this program because I feel like it will be a waste of time. What do you think?
    I am seeking professional opinions only, so please dont write about your personal thoughts and feelings about my conviction. After all, I am only here to be a functioning member in society.

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    I don't know if anyone will hire you as a registered sex offender as you will have to go into people's homes on a regular basis, but you don't know unless you try. Good luck
    Heating/Cooling Services Inc.
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    Thats what I figured as well, but I have heard that commercial would be easier, or even going into refrigeration. Also, I can get federally bonded. Would any of this make things easier? My only other option is to lie about my felony and hope they dont do a background check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraigg View Post
    My only other option is to lie about my felony and hope they dont do a background check.
    If you do that and it's found out - you will end up on the 6 O'clock news and in addition to the trouble it will cause you, your employer will most likely have his life ruined as well. Don't do that to yourself or him (IMO).

    Professionally speaking, if I were an employer I might give you a chance, but if I knew you would put my business in jeopardy by lying - then your chances would go right out the door - and lots of potential employers are members here (and read what you just wrote).

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    I understand the risk of lying about my record could result in my termination of employment. It is not an option I am willing to risk, espescially knowing it could tear apart an entire business and cost a lot of jobs. Perhaps I should have added that BEFORE clicking send. I was simply implying that if lying was my only way of obtaining employment in the HVAC-R industry, then the HVAC-R industry is a no-go and I should expand my horizons even further. Thanks for your input.

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    No worries. I hope you are able to make a fresh start in our industry.

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    commercial would be the way to go, and honesty will never fail you. A good HVACR program will set you up with a job apon graduation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraigg View Post
    I have a felony conviction from March 2010. To make matters worse, I have to register as a sex offender. The police found a couple files on my computer that contained images of people under the age of 18.... anyway, you know what Im saying. I have completed a two year therepy program, two semesters of full time college, 6 years military (prior to conviction), wife and 4 kids. I am about to start hvac class next month, as I have no technical knowledge of any skilled trade. I am extremely nervous about even doing this program because I feel like it will be a waste of time. What do you think?
    I am seeking professional opinions only, so please dont write about your personal thoughts and feelings about my conviction. After all, I am only here to be a functioning member in society.
    Kraigg, There is no possibility that you would be able to keep that information from an employer who does any background check. Being on a sex offender registry is fairly easy for them to uncover. That should be enough from me on the topic of lying about it. While I am all for hard punishments, at some point an individual has either been executed, or has paid their debt to society, and needs to be able to rebuild a life. The problem with this, however, is that the AC side of this field, which appears to be the larger side, includes going into people's homes. If you can work well on the refrigeration side and can maintain and repair cooking equipment and kitchen equipment, you might find that companies are far more comfortable with you working in food service maintenance. To answer your stated question, the most felon friendly employer is the federal government. It is somewhere between an irony and duplisity that while the government tends to make hiring ex convicts difficult, they hire them frequently. While the government requires those doing AC&R on civilian ships to pass a background check and hold a TWIC card, the government owned shipyard in Portsmouth VA has plenty of ex felons employed that do the same repairs on military ships. Even commercial HVAC work often requires a felony free record. I hate to discourage anyone from this field that I have found rewarding, and I do want to suggest solutions not merely problems, but if I had convictions and was considering a field to start in, I would look for fields that work less directly with the public/costumer. Have you considered diesel mechanic or welder? In all honesty there are many companies that while they support giving someone a chance to show they're rehabilitated, aren't so comfortable employing an ex felon to work directly with the public. A truck machanic earns a good wage, though they generally don't interface with costumers. I don't know how married you are to becoming an HVAC tech, but if you are just about to start training, and other fields are available, you might want to consider some.

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    I don't care that you don't want personal opinions. Mine is you don't have any business in a residential company. I don't care how much repenting you have done. I've seen first hand the damage of child molestation. Don't kid yourself, kiddy porn is child molestion even tho you did not lay actual hand on your victim.

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    Best of luck to you in your journey to redemption. We all have made mistakes. But recluse yourself from a job with a possibility of direct contact with children

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    BTW, if a service tech came to my house with this conviction, the business owner would get an ass chewing from me.

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    I resent the implication by some here that commercial work is more "felon-friendly". These people are obviously clueless. Commercial includes working in places like K-12 schools, univerisities, banks, insurance offices, hospitals, military bases, municipal and federal courts, and you need to have some type of security clearance for most of them.

    To the OP, I think you should look into some other line of work, 'cause I don't think you'll have any luck in this one with baggage like that.
    "There is no greater inequality than the equal treatment of unequals."

    -Thomas Jefferson

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    definetly go commercial .....up on roofs,in mechanical room nobody gives a SH** about your past.walking into a home is a liability for a companies image and your fellow techs making comment on you with follow up service...take the courses and get out of it what you can the rest will happen give yourself 5 years of doing any nd all stuff on jobs then step back and see where you are...learn that meter and breakdown skills(not going to get either in school).forget about not checking the last guy they interviewed lied about everything from robbing banks to raping customers, and jail time..they check everything thanks to A**hole like that.so give it up first 10 minutes in and take the interview focusing on the person and your energy to work the field.good luck
    "when in doubt...jump it out" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1qEZHhJubY

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