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  1. #27
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    Bring it on ! my students need yours tough love and complete candor if the are going to get employed out here . I you don't tell me I wont know, and I wont be able to get them employed so please-keep it coming ,from your mouth directly to my students ears !

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    Thanks G.T I see your in Cali. also, were in Sacramento . Thank you for you input if I am going to get these guys work I must get them ready for the real world .

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    Reading this and remembering a few conversations that I've had with guys who WEREN'T hired...


    As part of their training, have them run through mock job interviews and grade them on it.


    Show them how to dress for and prepare for an interview as well as how to conduct themselves in an interview.

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    Employers don’t tell you why a candidate wasn't selected usually and I don’t pry because it’s their choice but it would be nice if they let me know so I can fix a student’s errors and let them know what they need to work on and avoid burning bridges with future companies for other trainees because if 1trainee doesn’t work out some employers won’t even pull potential candidates from your program anymore making it tough for future students..

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    Again...you have an impossible job. You will never produce a field ready tech. Only the field can produce a field ready tech. It would be nice if experienced techs would help, as they do here; but that is often not the case.

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    So.....

    How will you vett prospective students to see if they are a "fit" for the program?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    So.....

    How will you vett prospective students to see if they are a "fit" for the program?
    Simple. Let all the students know the first day that you have high standards and will not provide a reference to any student who doesn't meet your standards. After all its you and your program the employer is looking at to award any interview. If a student is late to class repeatedly no reference. If a student shows up to class high, drunk, or hung over no reference. Etc etc. and stick to it.

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    Make sure they are not afraid of heights or confined spaces. They need to know how to setup and climb ladders without fear.
    Officially, Down for the count

    YOU HAVE TO GET OFF YOUR ASS TO GET ON YOUR FEET

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  9. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtinhvac View Post
    Again...you have an impossible job. You will never produce a field ready tech. Only the field can produce a field ready tech. It would be nice if experienced techs would help, as they do here; but that is often not the case.
    100% truth

    you are pushing a rock up hill. good luck with that. I have taught HVAC in a for profit school. It is simply an exercise is frustration. All of the attributes required are not present in each student yet you will be required to let 'unqualified' students into the program too. Students who aren't cut out for the job or who (as i have found over and over again) really have little to no interest, will slow the progress of and discourage the few students who are qualified and want to learn. Of course there aren't usually enough 'ideal' students to support a program and so the program needs those uninterested students... it's a catch 22. A foundation in basics of electricity and refrigeration cycle and all of that stuff is great but the main factor is integrity and work ethic. If you have those things you will be successful in this field. if you don;t you likely will not. Don't show up to the job 15 minutes late and then take the time to smoke a cigarette outside the door before you come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy knocker View Post
    Simple. Let all the students know the first day that you have high standards and will not provide a reference to any student who doesn't meet your standards. After all its you and your program the employer is looking at to award any interview. If a student is late to class repeatedly no reference. If a student shows up to class high, drunk, or hung over no reference. Etc etc. and stick to it.
    I tried this and wound up having to take it a step furher.. if you are continually late, high, drunk, absent, don't return from break, etc... you aren't allowed to ask questions. My investment -as an instructor- in you will match your investment in the class. If you invest yourself then there is no limit to what i am willing to do to help you along in your career - reference letters, taking you out on jobs on the weekends or after class, whatever it takes BUT if you don't care enough to come to class regularly or apply yourself during the labs or show up on time, etc.. then i don;t feel the need to do anything for you but read the paragraph out of the book and grade your papers. 'Hey, teach, can i come in after school one day for some extra help. I'm just not getting it.' my response is 'that's because you don't come to class or apply yourself or care, so the answer is no.' why should i stay late to help you when you aren't even willing to help yourself?

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    Thanks Tommy ! I had a talk with the class and let them know the truth about what employability actually is !

  12. #38
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    No offence what so ever ! Its called keeping isht real and I need that honesty if I am going to build solid techs/people . Thanks !

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    Great ! stuff I am nagging the isht out of these guys from now on and I will keep on their asses and try to weed out those who are just hear filling seats .

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