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    Gun ownership is the definition of freedom

    The Second Amendment says "the right to bear arms shall not be infringed"

    How many years of law school does a person need to understand that statement?
    Perhaps this statement can only be interpreted by a lawyer? a judge? a politician?

    When someone approaches you and says "i'm a Constitutional scholar, and the Second Amendment REALLY MEANS you CAN'T own guns" that is the ultimate in Machiavellian trained tyranny.
    If the public falls for that tactic , they are irresponsible and have become fools that forfeit their rights.

    Weapon confiscation has been going on long before people owned guns.
    Every argument in favor of gun control has been smashed, ...that statistics are in our favor, and yet, our politicians ignore everything and continue with their agenda.

    I'ts very simple, anyone who preaches gun control is your biggest enemy in the world.

    Any constitution in the world, which doesn't include gun ownership, is meaningless.
    Only a constitution which guarantees gun ownership offers any freedom , otherwise people live in an illusion.
    What good are words on paper when your government fails?

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    I have a small collection of books on the constitution. Floyd G. Cullop is an author, history teacher and constitutional scholar. In his opening statement regarding the constitution he makes the claim that the writers of the constitution openly claimed that a primary goal was to write simply enough that anyone with a basic education could understand its meaning.

    Professor Cullop writes "The Constitution was written in its final form by Gouverneur (that is correct spelling) Morris. It is considered one of the most readable and clearly stated documents ever written. A great deal of thought went into the exact wording of the Constitution. It was ment to be easily understood and leave no room for mistaken ideas about it contained."

    The Second Amendment is perhaps one of the most clearly written statements prohibiting the government from infringing on citizens right to own and carry arms. The government has already broken this hedge and continues to attack this amendment. The courts are very wrong and it does not take a college education to understand this clearly and simply written amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh B View Post

    Professor Cullop writes "The Constitution was written in its final form by Gouverneur (that is correct spelling) Morris. It is considered one of the most readable and clearly stated documents ever written. A great deal of thought went into the exact wording of the Constitution. It was ment to be easily understood and leave no room for mistaken ideas about it contained."

    The Second Amendment is perhaps one of the most clearly written statements prohibiting the government from infringing on citizens right to own and carry arms. The government has already broken this hedge and continues to attack this amendment. The courts are very wrong and it does not take a college education to understand this clearly and simply written amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh B View Post
    I have a small collection of books on the constitution. Floyd G. Cullop is an author, history teacher and constitutional scholar. In his opening statement regarding the constitution he makes the claim that the writers of the constitution openly claimed that a primary goal was to write simply enough that anyone with a basic education could understand its meaning.

    Professor Cullop writes "The Constitution was written in its final form by Gouverneur (that is correct spelling) Morris. It is considered one of the most readable and clearly stated documents ever written. A great deal of thought went into the exact wording of the Constitution. It was ment to be easily understood and leave no room for mistaken ideas about it contained."

    The Second Amendment is perhaps one of the most clearly written statements prohibiting the government from infringing on citizens right to own and carry arms. The government has already broken this hedge and continues to attack this amendment. The courts are very wrong and it does not take a college education to understand this clearly and simply written amendment.
    Better reply than I would have tapped out, but basically I was thinking the same thing more or less. The Constitution was written for the people to understand, not for some judges to tell us what it means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfstrike View Post
    The Second Amendment says "the right to bear arms shall not be infringed"

    How many years of law school does a person need to understand that statement?
    Perhaps this statement can only be interpreted by a lawyer? a judge? a politician?

    When someone approaches you and says "i'm a Constitutional scholar, and the Second Amendment REALLY MEANS you CAN'T own guns" that is the ultimate in Machiavellian trained tyranny.
    If the public falls for that tactic , they are irresponsible and have become fools that forfeit their rights.

    Weapon confiscation has been going on long before people owned guns.
    Every argument in favor of gun control has been smashed, ...that statistics are in our favor, and yet, our politicians ignore everything and continue with their agenda.

    I'ts very simple, anyone who preaches gun control is your biggest enemy in the world.

    Any constitution in the world, which doesn't include gun ownership, is meaningless.
    Only a constitution which guarantees gun ownership offers any freedom , otherwise people live in an illusion.
    What good are words on paper when your government fails?
    Lawyers, particularly those that grow up to be politicians and judges, make a living out of interpreting words for people.

    They intentionally quibble over semantics and minutia such as "what the meaning of 'is' is"

    If they actually allowed words to mean what they mean and allowed people to read them and understand them as they were written, then they wouldn't have jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    Lawyers, particularly those that grow up to be politicians and judges, make a living out of interpreting words for people.

    They intentionally quibble over semantics and minutia such as "what the meaning of 'is' is"

    If they actually allowed words to mean what they mean and allowed people to read them and understand them as they were written, then they wouldn't have jobs.


    that's mostly the job of state and city level lawyers.
    when tyrants use language to turn simple words into an opposite meaning, it's a crime.
    when lawyers use insignificant technicalities to spring people who are obviously guilty of a serious crime, that's also a violation of ethics.

    our Supreme Court has been building off of corruption for over 100 years.
    "if we can ignore A , then we can ignore B"
    when the Supreme Court says the text means the opposit of what it says, we have a big problem on our hands.

    as the previous poster pointed out, the Constitution was never meant to be screwed around with like that.
    the founders did everything in their power to prevent the situations we have today.

    when the founders pictured people sitting around debating about the Constitution, they thought of people working to IMPROVE it FOR EVERYONE, not as a foothold for corrupt politicians to remove people's rights.

    if you look at the defenition of the word "infringe" , you'll see the founders were fully aware of how governments operated when they remove rights

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    Notice that with the vast number of new gun control bills being put forth right now at the federal, state and local levels, how there is no substative discussion as to how those new laws are balanced against the Second Amendment.

    They just put forth more and more restrictive laws and simply ignore the Constitution of the United States altogether.

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    Actually "Gun ownership with certain restrictions" is the definition of freedom.

    Most gun owners today.... signed a paper to that effect when they put their John Hancock on the dotted line for that ccw permit.

    Thats what gets me about gun owners and the second..... they signed a paper saying "Im okay with restrictions as long as they dont affect me personally in a negative way"........ but at the same time they were taking a whizz on the second.

    Id have more respect for someone saying I want my semi auto rifles and extended magazines just because I enjoy them and paid good money for them...... at least that person would be honest and not a hypocrite.

    Im fine with any restrictions that dont affect revolvers, lever actions and bolt actions.....and Id also like to see pre world war 2 semi autos thrown in there.... but am fine with a restriction on those.....as long as I get fair market value for them.

    Guess Ill fight that battle when it comes.... but being an american.......Im sure Ill just lay down and take it like americans have for the past hundred years or so.
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    My thoughts on gun control. Use 2 hands. Chicago has gun control laws, isn't that the murder capitol of the world?
    Hitler was a pioneer on gun control. Does anyone know of a criminal that would try to get a cwp?
    I have heard it said that McDonalds kill more people than guns. Darn, you got me started. GRRrrrr

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    Quote Originally Posted by EugeneTheJeep View Post
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