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  1. #14
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    I'm pretty sure any trane scroll was built by Copeland.

    Even the name alliance seems to infer this IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    What year did they change to Copeland?
    Trane's residential scroll compressors have always been Copeland.

    The grey painted commercial scrolls are made by Danfos. Most places that sell Danfos compressors will have a crossover list to show which model matches with a given Trane commercial compressor part/model number.
    It isn't just a crossover to a similar product, it is a crossover to the exact same compressor, just painted Danfos blue, and usually >20% cheaper than Trane wants for it.
    If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.

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    The suction lines probably corrode faster since they will sweat in cooling mode, wetting the salt on the metal. corrosion is an electrical process, and salt water or brine work really well for that.

    also, you have copper and steel in contact at that point, so there's galvanic corrosion there too, I imagine. I know there's a plastic seal in the joint, but no plastc ring between the pipe and nut, like on a dielectric union.

    Do the compressors have blankets on them or are they exposed. maybe washing the salt off and covering the comps to keep salt spray off will help.

    If you coat the fittings, the coating must be 100%, or pitting will be much worse wherever any salt gets through
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    Trane has done away with the roto lok compressor fittings on most units as for the alliance scroll its a alliance between copeland and trane ,the only difference is the roto lok fitting and the color .so far they still have the roto lok on the ones i have seen
    We really need change now

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark beiser View Post
    Trane's residential scroll compressors have always been Copeland.

    The grey painted commercial scrolls are made by Danfos. Most places that sell Danfos compressors will have a crossover list to show which model matches with a given Trane commercial compressor part/model number.
    It isn't just a crossover to a similar product, it is a crossover to the exact same compressor, just painted Danfos blue, and usually >20% cheaper than Trane wants for it.

    I was asking about the use of the oddly shaped orange painted Voyager units, fat on the bottom. I thought they were Maneurop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    I was asking about the use of the oddly shaped orange painted Voyager units, fat on the bottom. I thought they were Maneurop.
    There may well be Maneurop compressors in the mix too. Danfoss and Maneurop commercial scroll compressors are quite similar in appearance too.
    If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.

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    Manuerop is made by danfoss.

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    CRC softseal is similar to cosmoline. In harsh environments I paint with marine grade antiseize. Of course your probably not going to paint an entire compressor. Is it possible to keep it in check a little if you constantly touch up paint? What if you saved used motor oil and poured it on comp and roto loks monthly?- ok the last one was a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBKold View Post
    Manuerop is made by danfoss.
    Well that certainly would explain why they look the same!
    If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.

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    The only reason I knew that is on back of danfoss catalog was a group picture of all their products and I noticed manuerop recips in the background.

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