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    Overseas HVAC, Controls or Building Engineer Positions

    So, I am an experienced HVAC mechanic, with a solid controls background. I have about 7 years in, and have been working in data centers for the past 3 or so years. I have my 608, my 410, and my journeymans license. . I also have a bachelors in Journalism and English, not that it matters, really, but I felt it worth mentioning.

    Anyways. I am not married, my daughter lives with her mother, and I am INCREDIBLY interested in going overseas to work in HVAC, Controls, or as a commercial building engineer. I have heard of contracts ranging worth over 200k, tax free! That is exactly what I need in my life.

    What I would love at this point is a little help, or direction. I am not sure how to get started, and have been looking online for the jobs, but have not found much. I know there are a lot out there, but I am not having much luck finding them.

    I don't care if it's Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Qatar, United Emirates, etc. I would like to go over, do my job, and be on base, and be paid well for what I do.

    Can anyone help me? Point me in the right direction? Happy to forward resume at any point. I have good places on there ( Microsoft, Amazon, Johnson Controls), and very solid experience.

    Thanks!!

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    If it to true too believe don't believe it. 200 G a year. I doubt it.

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    I would be happy with less. And I do have verification of wages that high. I just need to find the right contract. But, valid point. Thanks sir!

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    In some counties, that $200K is worth about $40k in purchasing power.

    Also, many currencies are not very valuable. The Italian lira was carried by common people by the THOUSANDS.

    Also, check with current IRS regulations. When I last looked a few years ago, you could earn about $80k in US dollars outside the US tax free, if you met the requirements for not being in the US for a sufficient amount of time.
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    Solid points, for sure. I would just like to get some overseas experience. And I've heard the money is fantastic. Maybe 200 is high, but I've heard of both more and also less.

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    The tax free time was one year.
    I missed an opportunity when the American Embassy was being built in Moscow and all the electronic bugs were found. The opportunity was sent to my Union for applicants. They needed someone to simply disconnect controls on hvac boxes and reconnect after a security search was done. That was around 1988. The job at the time paid 78000$/yr tax free.
    You could fly out of Russia the last two weeks of every three months where ever the plane could go for free. Food and uniforms were supplied and all you had to buy were toilet stuff.
    Then the Soviet Union went through Perestroika and the job fell through.

    Heck of a job and it wasn't too good to be true. They are out there but don't be in too big a hurry to enter a combat zone especially w/o military experience. And like timebuilder says some places are unaffordable.
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    Brown & Root would be a good place to start looking.
    Heck just google the kind of position in where you want to live.
    Remember, the more dangerous it is,the higher the pay.
    I had an oppurtunity after the Iraq invasion to go with B&R as an installation foreman for lots of bucks + a bonus if on time completion.Rules said NO civilians could have a firearm on the US bases so I said take a hike, not going into a war zone with just a pocket knife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    In some counties, that $200K is worth about $40k in purchasing power.

    Also, many currencies are not very valuable. The Italian lira was carried by common people by the THOUSANDS.

    Also, check with current IRS regulations. When I last looked a few years ago, you could earn about $80k in US dollars outside the US tax free, if you met the requirements for not being in the US for a sufficient amount of time.
    Here's the page about Foreign Earned Income Tax Exclusion. It looks like for 2015 it was just over $100,000 tax free income.

    Also, here's the page on the Physical Prescence Test. It says you have to be out of the country 330 full days a year to receive the tax exemption.

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    Found this on brown and roots website:

    https://kbr.taleo.net/careersection/6/jobdetail.ftl

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    It's nice to see that they have raised the amount of non-taxable income to $100,000, however, I spent a lot of time looking into this a few years ago, so there's a couple things you have to be aware of besides the fact that you might be working in a dangerous area.

    Number one, it's not a 40-hour work week with weekends off. It's 12 hours a day, EVERY day, with some time off every so often, and when you start to look at the parameters of the job, you begin to realize that you're actually getting paid $15 to $20 an hour because they are going to work the crap out of you over there, and they're not going to do very much to protect you either. You don't see a lot of the news stories, but literally hundreds of US contractors have died in war zones and these are not contractors like Blackwater security...these are guys like you and me...so you really have to consider whether or not these are good companies to work for.

    Secondly, when you try to contact people like Kellogg Brown and Root they're not going to get back to you immediately. It might be a few months... and then maybe they'll contact you. If you ask them a question they might not even ever contact you again. I talked to KBR about a job doing HVAC in Afghanistan, and I asked them about a very disturbing news story known and searchable on the internet as the "dancing boy story." A lot of these Afghanies are real perverts despite the fact that they say that they adhere to a religious belief that would prevent this type of thing. They compartmentalize these so-called cultural ideas and set them aside by themselves, and it was alleged by someone that KBR had something to do with one of those situations....and if you ask them about it they'll probably never speak to you again.

    But.....if you find out about it, you may never want to work for them.



    Quote Originally Posted by oldguy1949 View Post
    Brown & Root would be a good place to start looking.
    Heck just google the kind of position in where you want to live.
    Remember, the more dangerous it is,the higher the pay.
    I had an oppurtunity after the Iraq invasion to go with B&R as an installation foreman for lots of bucks + a bonus if on time completion.Rules said NO civilians could have a firearm on the US bases so I said take a hike, not going into a war zone with just a pocket knife.
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    Thanks for all the help guys. All very solid points. I've applied for some HVAC mechanic positions in Iraq. We will see how it goes!

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