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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    This is another belief of the low information voter...

    Here is the information. Barack Obama was about 9 years old, so that was a big accomplishment for the social justice messiah.

    \http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Credit_Reporting_Act
    I think Obama was closer to 42.

    FACTA was an amendment to the bill you linked to. The credit goes to "W."
    The poster you quoted atleast qualified his view by saying he believed it was Obama and didn't disparage anybody. Technically his quote was correct. As for yours?



    The Fair and Accurate Credit Transactions Act of 2003 (abbreviated FACT Act or FACTA, Pub.L. 108–159) is a United States federal law, passed by the United States Congress on November 22, 2003,[1] and signed by President George W. Bush on December 4, 2003,[2] as an amendment to the Fair Credit Reporting Act. The act allows consumers to request and obtain a free credit report once every twelve months from each of the three nationwide consumer credit reporting companies (Equifax, Experian and TransUnion). In cooperation with the Federal Trade Commission, the three major credit reporting agencies set up the website, AnnualCreditReport.com, to provide free access to annual credit reports.[3]
    The act also contains provisions to help reduce identity theft, such as the ability for individuals to place alerts on their credit histories if identity theft is suspected, or if deploying overseas in the military, thereby making fraudulent applications for credit more difficult.


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    You guys are looking at this all wrong. Now that the OP is a minority, there are a whole bunch of gubmint stipends he should be able to qualify for. Not to mention his children getting free education thru the Dream Act. I think he hit the jackpot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    You guys are looking at this all wrong. Now that the OP is a minority, there are a whole bunch of gubmint stipends he should be able to qualify for. Not to mention his children getting free education thru the Dream Act. I think he hit the jackpot.
    Yeah, poor white boys what will we do? Maybe everybody is a member of a minority group now. Actually that isn't true either.

    A minority group is a sociological category within a demographic. Rather than a relational "social group", as the term would indicate, the term refers to a category that is differentiated and defined by the social majority, that is, those who hold the majority of positions of social power in a society.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_group

    Nothing In The Bill Provides A "Free Ride To College." The DREAM Act makes permanent legal status eventually available to certain individuals who attend college, but it does not pay for that education. In fact, the bill limits federal student aid available to those who obtain legal status through the DREAM Act to loans, work-study programs and services like counseling, and mentoring. DREAM Act students will not have access to federal grant programs like Pell Grants and Opportunity Grants.

    From Section 11 of the DREAM Act:

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    I think Obama was closer to 42.

    FACTA was an amendment to the bill you linked to. The credit goes to "W."
    The poster you quoted atleast qualified his view by saying he believed it was Obama and didn't disparage anybody. Technically his quote was correct. As for yours?
    Your post raises some interesting points in time. Let's look at them, shall we?

    YES! I am more than willing to disabuse someone who votes based on a mistaken view of reality that he gets from TV networks, small cable outlets, websites operated by the Huffington Post and their ilk, or union leadership.

    And I am proud to do so. And I support the ideas of brilliant African Americans like Dr. Benjamin Carson. I am so thankful that men such as him are still willing to stand up and speak out.

    The Act passed in 1970, when Obama was about 9, and his future political friends were still active domestic terrorists.

    It was amended, as you said. But it could not have been amended if it was not already in force, and also true, some credit goes to the congress that amended it, and the President, George W. Bush, who signed it.

    When Barack Obama was 42, he had not yet been elected to the US Senate, where he started voting "present." He avoided going on the record in the Senate, so no defining ideas would be permanently attached to him. This maintained his condition of being the "blank slate," upon which hopeful, uneducated millions could write their own ideas, and credit those ideas to him.

    The point I hope to make is that a very large segment of the US population is unable to connect the Presidential leadership, or the lack thereof, to the conditions he creates, as he skillfully (I'll give him that) portrays himself as battling unseen forces which he blames for the current conditions.

    He will be remembered as perhaps THE most skillful obfuscater of all US Presidents.

    And, President Obama had NOTHING to do with our ability to get a free credit report every year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Your post raises some interesting points in time. Let's look at them, shall we?

    YES! I am more than willing to disabuse someone who votes based on a mistaken view of reality that he gets from TV networks, small cable outlets, websites operated by the Huffington Post and their ilk, or union leadership.

    And I am proud to do so. And I support the ideas of brilliant African Americans like Dr. Benjamin Carson. I am so thankful that men such as him are still willing to stand up and speak out.

    The Act passed in 1970, when Obama was about 9, and his future political friends were still active domestic terrorists.

    It was amended, as you said. But it could not have been amended if it was not already in force, and also true, some credit goes to the congress that amended it, and the President, George W. Bush, who signed it.

    When Barack Obama was 42, he had not yet been elected to the US Senate, where he started voting "present." He avoided going on the record in the Senate, so no defining ideas would be permanently attached to him. This maintained his condition of being the "blank slate," upon which hopeful, uneducated millions could write their own ideas, and credit those ideas to him.

    The point I hope to make is that a very large segment of the US population is unable to connect the Presidential leadership, or the lack thereof, to the conditions he creates, as he skillfully (I'll give him that) portrays himself as battling unseen forces which he blames for the current conditions.

    He will be remembered as perhaps THE most skillful obfuscater of all US Presidents.

    And, President Obama had NOTHING to do with our ability to get a free credit report every year.

    There is a lot in your post that would make for a great discussion. Hopefully it will come about. But before that there is one glaring bit of "information" that needs correcting. Obama never voted present in the US senate. He did so as a state senator. He did so less than most of his fellow caucus members. It is often used as a way to express a protest as to how the bill was put together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    There is a lot in your post that would make for a great discussion. Hopefully it will come about. But before that there is one glaring bit of "information" that needs correcting. Obama never voted present in the US senate. He did so as a state senator. He did so less than most of his fellow caucus members. It is often used as a way to express a protest as to how the bill was put together.
    I should have known not to trust Hillary Clinton, whose word I was relying upon for the "present" votes in the US Senate by Barack Obama. Yes, he DID vote "present" in the Illinois legislature, and this protest vote is somewhat cowardly, since his job as a legislator is to vote up or down, just as Senator Reid's refusal to allow a vote on a constitutionally mandated budget is also somewhat cowardly. Senator Reid wants to protect Senate democrats from facing backlash in their elections due to how they vote. Cowardly? Indeed.

    Perhaps we can agree that the founders believed that our representative republic can only thrive with a well informed electorate, which is something sorely lacking, today.

    We have allowed liars and thieves to mislead the public without fear of reprisal, and this alone could be our downfall, much less a man who holds our nation in disdain in his heart. Why else would such a man long for "fundamental change" to the greatest nation on earth?

    Here is a link for Senator Obama's voting:

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/memb...k_obama/400629
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    I should have known not to trust Hillary Clinton, whose word I was relying upon for the "present" votes in the US Senate by Barack Obama. Yes, he DID vote "present" in the Illinois legislature, and this protest vote is somewhat cowardly, since his job as a legislator is to vote up or down, just as Senator Reid's refusal to allow a vote on a constitutionally mandated budget is also somewhat cowardly. Senator Reid wants to protect Senate democrats from facing backlash in their elections due to how they vote. Cowardly? Indeed.

    Perhaps we can agree that the founders believed that our representative republic can only thrive with a well informed electorate, which is something sorely lacking, today.

    We have allowed liars and thieves to mislead the public without fear of reprisal, and this alone could be our downfall, much less a man who holds our nation in disdain in his heart. Why else would such a man long for "fundamental change" to the greatest nation on earth?

    Here is a link for Senator Obama's voting:

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/memb...k_obama/400629

    I would love to see where you say Hilary accused Obama of doing that in the US Senate. I can find Palin, Fox etc doing that. I can only find Hilary saying it happened in the state senate which was the case.
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    She said he did it when he was a Senator, and she did not differentiate WHICH Senate, leaving the public to draw the wrong conclusion.

    Palin should not have followed Hillary's lead, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    She said he did it when he was a Senator, and she did not differentiate WHICH Senate, leaving the public to draw the wrong conclusion.

    Palin should not have followed Hillary's lead, either.
    Every quote I can find from her states it correctly. Oh well ty for the response.

    Palin did not follow her lead, she stated it incorrectly pure and simple.

    This is a quote from Hilary. All I find atleast have it right in which senate she was referring to.

    "I remember the days when Obama was already a rising national star in the Democratic Party and in the Illinois state legislature. And what a disappointment to us he was. He voted "present" instead of "no" on five horrendous anti-women/anti-choice bills."
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    This is another belief of the low information voter...

    Here is the information. Barack Obama was about 9 years old, so that was a big accomplishment for the social justice messiah.

    \http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Credit_Reporting_Act
    I voted 4 perot
    http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles...credit-reports

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    My new avatar is actually Anti obama. I point out good I point out bad. I represent the people who are being spoken about when there not present. R u buy shawnee village Pa I have a time share there since the 80's. That community went down. I think You have acess to Planes we should spread our dislikes in the air with those cloud messages. I miss that kind of marketing damm internet.
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