+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 27

Thread: Control board repairs or work around

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    9
    Post Likes

    Control board repairs or work around

    I am a tech that works on residential appliances and on occasion will take on commercial equipment for friends or nuns that call me with a problem. (seems I'm the only one that will help out a nun around here or the only one they call either way EXTREMELY Ironic). I picked up an ice machine that was flooded in the last hurricane we had down here and am either looking to use it at the house or sell it once I get it working.

    Does anyone have any experiences with having control boards repaired? I'm in search of a control for a Manitowoc QYO454A and they are expensive as as giraffe nu*s are high. The unit is about 10 years old and is in good shape other than the harvest cycle initiates right after the time out ends. Disconnecting the water probe does nothing.

    I've found a site that claims that they can repair them but I'm leery to send the board to them and they say it can't be repaired and lose my shot of getting it fixed in the process. Anyone have a solution, workaround, or advise on this? I'm having a hard time thinking of trashing the machine because of a control board when the sealed system is in working order. It will work make ice on it's first cycle, then errors on the next.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Fremont, Indiana
    Posts
    3,275
    Post Likes
    Quote Originally Posted by wobiii View Post
    I am a tech that works on residential appliances and on occasion will take on commercial equipment for friends or nuns that call me with a problem. (seems I'm the only one that will help out a nun around here or the only one they call either way EXTREMELY Ironic). I picked up an ice machine that was flooded in the last hurricane we had down here and am either looking to use it at the house or sell it once I get it working.

    Does anyone have any experiences with having control boards repaired? I'm in search of a control for a Manitowoc QYO454A and they are expensive as as giraffe nu*s are high. The unit is about 10 years old and is in good shape other than the harvest cycle initiates right after the time out ends. Disconnecting the water probe does nothing.

    I've found a site that claims that they can repair them but I'm leery to send the board to them and they say it can't be repaired and lose my shot of getting it fixed in the process. Anyone have a solution, workaround, or advise on this? I'm having a hard time thinking of trashing the machine because of a control board when the sealed system is in working order. It will work make ice on it's first cycle, then errors on the next.
    I would troubleshoot further (harder) before condemning the board jmo

    sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note
    Member of the "Work Exchange Program"
    "Will work for knowledge"

    "Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid"
    A Einstein

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    9
    Post Likes
    Thread Starter
    Thanks, but how? Service manual says to run with the ice probe hooked up, then with it off to test it looking for different results. Same results both times. I have read that these boards are pretty damn tough but this one went under water and still runs the machine mostly.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    steeler nation
    Posts
    2,414
    Post Likes
    "they are expensive as as giraffe nu*s are high"

    cant help you but love the quote
    IV IV IX

    use your head for something other than a hat rack.......Gerry


    We have freedom because somebody fought for it.
    We keep it because we are willing to fight for it.
    We lose it because we are not willing to fight for it.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    9
    Post Likes
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by viceman View Post
    "they are expensive as as giraffe nu*s are high"

    cant help you but love the quote
    Thanks Vice. Also let me offer you the qote varation of "high as giraffe nut*" as used most often when dealing with a salesman.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Western New York
    Posts
    1,199
    Post Likes
    I have repaired a number of ice machine boards. If the #3 relay (for the harvest solenoid) on the board is defective that would cause your problem.
    Experience is what you have an hour after you need it.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    9
    Post Likes
    Thread Starter
    Thank you Baub, I probably have one laying around here so if I can find the right one I'll give it a try. Thanks.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Western KY
    Posts
    1,221
    Post Likes
    If you got a relay and wanna try nothing to lose but time. Spend enough time trying to fix it and and you could end up loosing money over just replacing it. That's why service companies rarely mess with it.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    9
    Post Likes
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy knocker View Post
    If you got a relay and wanna try nothing to lose but time. Spend enough time trying to fix it and and you could end up loosing money over just replacing it. That's why service companies rarely mess with it.
    Thanks and understand the advise but it's a garage project now in my garage so it'll just be drinking beer trying to fix a board learning experience time anyway. I would never do this for a customer because I couldn't guarantee it and the liability that it brings. Best price I could find on a board was 600, so that's a good bit of messing around time.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Southeastern Pa
    Posts
    32,658
    Post Likes
    First, I would make sure that the ice probe is nice and clean.

    If the problem is still there then I would probably substitute that number 3 relay mentioned above. Microrelays are not designed to be submerged so you might want to pull the covers off of each one to make sure they're clean and dry inside. You can use contact cleaner to clean out the inside

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Western New York
    Posts
    1,199
    Post Likes

    Maybe this will help...

    Experience is what you have an hour after you need it.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    9
    Post Likes
    Thread Starter
    Ok have all relays replaced, not really sure of the condition of every one of them but had enough laying around to replace them. Had one that was rusted to pieced on the inside. So I just reinstalled the board and it's still in its first cycle. Will let you all know in a few what happens. Regardless, thank everyone of you for the help so far.

    Walt

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    9
    Post Likes
    Thread Starter

    No change, same problem with the red harvest light even with the ice probe unplugged.

    No change at all, same problem. Even with the ice probe disconnected.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    1,762
    Post Likes
    love the beer
    Keep it simple to keep it cool!

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Southeastern Pa
    Posts
    32,658
    Post Likes
    Quote Originally Posted by wobiii View Post
    No change at all, same problem. Even with the ice probe disconnected.
    Stubborn guy that I am, I would start looking at the board starting with the harvest probe connection.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    in the present
    Posts
    94
    Post Likes
    I've had some luck over the years cleaning boards with distilled water and a toothbrush. All it takes is a little crust or whatnot to short across a couple traces. If it was underwater it may have some dried up residue. It's worked more than once for me.

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Southeastern Pa
    Posts
    32,658
    Post Likes
    Quote Originally Posted by kirkH View Post
    I've had some luck over the years cleaning boards with distilled water and a toothbrush. All it takes is a little crust or whatnot to short across a couple traces. If it was underwater it may have some dried up residue. It's worked more than once for me.
    I agree.
    [Avatar photo from a Florida training accident. Everyone walked away.]
    2 Tim 3:16-17

    RSES CMS, HVAC Electrical Specialist
    Member, IAEI

    AOP Forum Rules:







  18. #18
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    NW Iowa
    Posts
    250
    Post Likes
    Just wanted updates on this....good stuff.

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    14,048
    Post Likes
    if this was still plugged while submerged , problem may be hidden in a chip or cap or resistor , or who the hell knows

    Never hurts to try replacing what you can tho

    Take magnifying glass and look at each solder joint for cracks

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Jul 2000
    Location
    Guayaquil, EC
    Posts
    14,652
    Post Likes
    Looking at a Manitowoc J/Q-Series control board (25-1130-3), the output relays appear to be this one, available for under 3 bucks at Mouser Electronics:

    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...52blt2eEjTY%3d

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Quick Reply Quick Reply

Register Now

Please enter the name by which you would like to log-in and be known on this site.

Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Log-in

Posting Permissions

  • You may post new threads
  • You may post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •