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    Decent band, Dean! Looks like loads of fun. We own the Simon DVD, Gadd pops up in a few of the Crossroads concerts and a couple others we have. Guy has flawless timing.

    Mad drummer is hilarious, Thorton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdean1 View Post
    I reply with another great Gadd clip. Late in the Evening. Michael Brecker on tenor sax. I love watching the band smiling at each other.
    A quick nod again to my bud Todd. We had an apartment in Manhattan in 1971. The previous occcupoant was Michael Brecker. Rico Reeds were everywhere! He did stop by a couple of times during the move to his new digs.

    The Dreams band was just breaking out into greater notoriety with the record "Imagine my surprise..." with the cover art by Payboy cartoonist Gahan Wilson.

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    Okay.

    I want an AD HD T shirt!!!
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    Then there's THIS guy. Its always about the drums.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPWjNX4PBlI

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    There are some youtube videos of Steps Ahead with Brecker and Gadd that are very tasty. Steps Ahead is awsome. I thought Peter Erskine did some great stuff with them.

    I've seen Steve Smith in clinic twice. He's in my top 5 for clinics. I also saw him with Vital Information in Boston. He played flat out the whole time. I wasn't impressed by his work in Journey but as a jazz drummer he's come into his own.

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    Is it true, Dean, that a disproportionate number of drummers tend to be...oh, say one cymbal short of a paradiddle? I've known a few that were...quite spirited to say the least.

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    Drummers get the least respect of all musicians. Some musicians learn by ear rather than learning to read music. That's okay and many get by just fine. It can present a problem if someone else needs a song in a different key. It seems more drummers play by ear than instrumentalists because drummers don't deal with chords or melodies. That's a drawback because reading and understanding music goes a long way to understanding a song. As far as being .. odd, many drummers listen primarily to the drums in a song instead of how the parts work together. Maybe you're thinking of rock drummers but it think the whole rock lifestyle is somewhat off-kilter. Certainly Keith Moon was odd, but I got the impression from his biography that he just had a physical predisposition to drugs. Many think that a rock'n'roll life would be cool but look at how many carried the excesses too far and died from it.
    Maybe drummers find it easy to reach a certain level of proficiency so they can be in a band and party with the least amount of effort.
    However there are some astonishing drummers who really work to be as skilled as they are. I give them props.

    Q. How can you tell when the stage is level?
    A.The drool runs out both sides of the drummer's mouth.


    Q. What do drummers get on IQ tests?
    A. Drool.

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    kdean, I really liked that video you posted of Steve Gadd, Vinnie Colaiuta, and Dave Weckl. Vinnie is definitely my favorite of the bunch, but what Dave was doing with the cymbals in the beginning was impressive also!

    I'd like to know what you guys' opinions are on some of the drummers in those videos I posted. George Kollias, Mike Smith, and Kai Hahto are some of the most respected drummers playing heavy music today, and it would be very interesting to hear a take on their playing coming from someone who plays a different style and clearly has a good ear and eye for this stuff.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MheE8646YFs

    Here is Lucass from the Polish Death Metal bands Sammath Naur and Gnida... May not be your cup o' tea, but this guy is FAST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech Rob View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MheE8646YFs

    Here is Lucass from the Polish Death Metal bands Sammath Naur and Gnida... May not be your cup o' tea, but this guy is FAST.
    I'm quite sure I'd be running for the door, pale and frightened amongst all the tattoos, piercings and colored mohawks; if the rest of the band kicked in - but this guy has crazy command and speed.

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    Q. what do you say to a drummer wearing a suit?
    A. will the defendant please rise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech Rob View Post
    I'd like to know what you guys' opinions are on some of the drummers in those videos I posted. George Kollias, Mike Smith, and Kai Hahto are some of the most respected drummers playing heavy music today, and it would be very interesting to hear a take on their playing coming from someone who plays a different style and clearly has a good ear and eye for this stuff.
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    Those guys are FAST! out of the three I liked Mike Smith best as he had more melodic sense to his playing. Fast singles and doubles (especially in the feet) are impressive but I don't find that style of music very expressive. That sort of speed seems to be speed for speeds sake. There wasn't much in the way of dynamics and I couldn't catch a melody to hang on to. I look for things such as melody, harmony, form and dynamics in the music that attracts me.
    I have seen some fast guys in clinics. Virgil Donati and Thomas Lang aren't the same style as the videos you posted but they largely were aiming for being fast, too.
    As for melodic playing, I have to single out Terry Bozzio. I still have a sound sheet (thin record) that came with a Modern Drummer magazine in the 80's that turned me on to what he was developing in ostinato accompaniment. Here's one of his videos that has some stunning coordination.
    Look at 2:50 where he sets up a cool pattern with left hand and feet. Then he shifts it to right hand and feet at 3:50. The first time I saw it I had to back up and see it again as I didn't think such a think was possible. Though I am impressed with what he does as well as the drum videos you posted, that's not what I aspire to when I learn new stuff. Drum demonstrations are cool but I don't play in any situations where I can use stuff like that. I guess I'm an old fart.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ezomnUu_BQ

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je_iqbgGXFw

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