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    What is a permanently closed window

    Venting instructions say that it must be 4' from a window that may open, and 1' from a permanently closed window. That is difficult because my windows are closer than 8' apart. Can I put a screw through a double hung window and make it permanently closed?

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    permanently closed windows can NEVER be opened by design.....no screws ....
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    what is it you are venting?

    by code ...beshvac is right.
    because by removing the screw the window isn't permanently closed.

    best of luck
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    It's the one with The Duct Tape !.. L.O.L.
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    double
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    A permanently closed window is what you'd find downtown in an office building. It's designed to be looked out of, but not opened.

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    i'm pretty sure glass block windows will qualify as "permanently closed" since they can't be opened. But also sure you can't temporarily screw a window shut and get the inspector to agree to "permanently closed" status. Find another way such as calling an experienced professional!

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    I think a similar term is "non-operable" window. But it could also give someone the notion that they could run a screw into the frame and call an otherwise operable window "non-operable". Nope. "Non-operable" or "permanently closed" means that is how the window is MADE, not what it can be modified TO.
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    what are you venting?
    The cure of the part should not be attempted without the cure of the whole. ~Plato

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    Ditto on the above guys, especially energy rater.

    The rule you list is generally related to non-direct venting.

    If your equipment is able to be direct vented, I would suggest it.
    Especially since direct venting should VASTLY change the venting clearances.
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