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Thread: Work in Southern CA
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02-23-2013, 05:26 PM #53
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02-23-2013, 06:34 PM #54
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In california after 12 hours in a day it's double time.
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02-23-2013, 07:04 PM #55
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02-23-2013, 10:57 PM #56
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Working under the ARCA agreement?
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02-23-2013, 11:11 PM #57
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I did my interview with Hill Phoenix, waiting to hear!
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02-24-2013, 02:05 AM #58
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02-28-2013, 10:53 AM #59
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If California labor law says Double Time after 12 Hrs, then that supersedes you CBA. Double Time on Holiday Days and Sundays are different than Double Time in excess of 12 Hrs worked.
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02-28-2013, 11:37 AM #60
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The local union halls, representatives, handbooks, etc. All imply that the CBA supercedes california law by stating that you only get double time on holidays or Sundays if you're under the ARCA agreement. Those of us that worked under the same agreement that the steamfitters worked under (at least in Local 230 San Diego) got DT at 10 hours, any Sunday, any holiday, any time we were called out after hours if we had already returned home after an 8 hour shift...
That double time was the excuse my last union employer used to lay me off after they hired a couple local 250 ARCA guys from up north and I wouldn't agree to switch to the ARCA agreement back when Local 230 had zero ARCA journeymen and the pay scale difference between the two agreements was roughly $10/hour...
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03-09-2013, 04:05 PM #61
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03-09-2013, 04:30 PM #62
what is the ARCA acronym stand for, and what is the difference?
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03-09-2013, 09:00 PM #63
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The service manager told me the same thing!! Sounds like it's a polite way of saying "we will pass"... Oh well we have decided to stay up north anyways!
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03-09-2013, 09:31 PM #64
They told my buddy they would call him in 30 days.
They did, and offered him a little over a $7 cut
Hill is in the process of learning that there is a shortage of qualified competent mechanics. And if they want a guy with 1/2 a brain, they are going to need to pay up.
My worry with Hill is they are going towards operating like Source.
It's a race to the bottom
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03-09-2013, 09:39 PM #65
It's ARCA/MCA I think it stands for "Airconditioning, Refrigeration and Mechanical Contractors Association"
I'm new to the UA, so I'm not 100% sure, but I believe they operate as a party that writes the "collective bargaining agreement" between the company's & the UA.
Your company can either use their contract, or write their own.



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