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  1. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanicallyInclined View Post
    How does Source pay DT?
    After 12 hours worked in a day.

  2. #54
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    In california after 12 hours in a day it's double time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackintheboxtec View Post
    In california after 12 hours in a day it's double time.
    Not for me or Flanders

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    Working under the ARCA agreement?

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    I did my interview with Hill Phoenix, waiting to hear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icanfixitall View Post
    I did my interview with Hill Phoenix, waiting to hear!
    good luck!

    hopefully they don't tell you to give them 30 days to figure things out?

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    If California labor law says Double Time after 12 Hrs, then that supersedes you CBA. Double Time on Holiday Days and Sundays are different than Double Time in excess of 12 Hrs worked.

  8. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanicallyInclined View Post
    If California labor law says Double Time after 12 Hrs, then that supersedes you CBA. Double Time on Holiday Days and Sundays are different than Double Time in excess of 12 Hrs worked.
    The local union halls, representatives, handbooks, etc. All imply that the CBA supercedes california law by stating that you only get double time on holidays or Sundays if you're under the ARCA agreement. Those of us that worked under the same agreement that the steamfitters worked under (at least in Local 230 San Diego) got DT at 10 hours, any Sunday, any holiday, any time we were called out after hours if we had already returned home after an 8 hour shift...

    That double time was the excuse my last union employer used to lay me off after they hired a couple local 250 ARCA guys from up north and I wouldn't agree to switch to the ARCA agreement back when Local 230 had zero ARCA journeymen and the pay scale difference between the two agreements was roughly $10/hour...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phase Loss View Post
    good luck!

    hopefully they don't tell you to give them 30 days to figure things out?
    Now I know what the heck you're talking about....I just heard that story.

  10. #62
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    what is the ARCA acronym stand for, and what is the difference?
    People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.

  11. #63
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    The service manager told me the same thing!! Sounds like it's a polite way of saying "we will pass"... Oh well we have decided to stay up north anyways!

  12. #64
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    They told my buddy they would call him in 30 days.

    They did, and offered him a little over a $7 cut

    Hill is in the process of learning that there is a shortage of qualified competent mechanics. And if they want a guy with 1/2 a brain, they are going to need to pay up.

    My worry with Hill is they are going towards operating like Source.

    It's a race to the bottom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dowadudda View Post
    what is the ARCA acronym stand for, and what is the difference?
    It's ARCA/MCA I think it stands for "Airconditioning, Refrigeration and Mechanical Contractors Association"

    I'm new to the UA, so I'm not 100% sure, but I believe they operate as a party that writes the "collective bargaining agreement" between the company's & the UA.

    Your company can either use their contract, or write their own.

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