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    Carlyle replacement ?

    Replacing a compressor on a liebert unit. Was given a Totaline replacement m/n 6DM8186TLAC0600
    S/n 290PD0271
    Old compressor was rebuild
    m/n 06DF8182AA3600
    s/n C42273T
    Old comp had electric unloader on 1head and I was told I could just swap the old head with unloader onto the new compressor which didn't come with a unloader head. I've never came across this before and not sure on how to proceed. I have a couple pics for you guys but cannot upload right now on my cell phone. I'll post them after when I get home. According to my vendor I should be able to swap heads and be good to go but they are different in my eyes. To be continued... Sorry for the long post
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    You have a suction cut off unloader. I believe they no longer require changing the valve plate. You should just be able to swap the head.

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    Spoke with caryle tech and was told if the old head doesn't match the new compressor I can clean the old head and valves then install them in the new compressor head. I've never replaced valves but one would think a replacement compressor would be a direct replacement. I bought a bunch of valve plate gaskets to insure I had the right one. Perhaps I'm missing something but should it not be as easy as to install a new but maybe different gasket as the valve head and plate don't match and be done. Thanks for the help. Tomorrow will be another good learning experience. Fitz...
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    It's not too bad. Don't sweat swapping heads/valve/valve plate. Make sure you use the right gaskets. If you do not have it the little green Carlyle book for 06D 06CC 06E is a couple dollars well spent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightshaker View Post
    It's not too bad. Don't sweat swapping heads/valve/valve plate. Make sure you use the right gaskets. If you do not have it the little green Carlyle book for 06D 06CC 06E is a couple dollars well spent.
    this is correct.


    Look at your head NOT valve plate when choosing gasket ....match it up to your head ...
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    Will this help
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    Too me it looks likeinthe pic of the old comp,the valve plat is still stuck there, but on the new one its stuck to the head.....might be the problem...

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    Coolerick your right. I wasn't aware that I could remove one of the valve stop cap screws and reinsert them to break the valve plate away from the compressor. So I'm thinking I can swap valve plates and install the old unloader head on the new comp. Was just reading up on my Carlyle service book and found the valve plate disassembly section. The new suction valves and valve plate dowel pin plate should assemble on the used valve plate!Just make sure I use the correct gasket? Thanks for all the responses. Fitz...
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    The only problem that I see is that the old unloader head has moving parts inside that are contaminated with the residue from the motor burnout. Your Carlyle dealer sold you a Totaline generic compressor which is not a direct replacement. The fourth digit in your original model number (the letter "F") clearly indicates a suction cutoff unloader head. I would be concerned that the teflon seal on the unloader piston inside the cylinder head is worn or damaged. We see it all the time and replace every one.

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    Glag i could help, reman is right abput the unloader piston...might want to replace it now rathet than later

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    Have a new suction cutoff unloader head with new solenoid waiting for me at the supply house. Will let you guys know how it goes tomorrow.
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    Good stuff, have fun

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