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02-09-2013, 03:56 PM #92
02-09-2013, 04:03 PM #93
No disrespect or insult intented, but mirrors must be a daily ordeal for you. We are all “sales techs.” What do you think you are doing every time you quote a repair and seek the customer’s approval for same? Did you hang a shingle out front that reads “No service charge, free parts and installation?” It just so happens that a malfunctioning component makes the repair an easy and anticipated sale. How many of you do NOT drive service trucks that state "Sales, Service and Installation?" Many of you probably have an "Ask Our Comfort Experts About Air Quality!!!"
It’s case by case and always with that customer’s particular needs in mind. If that is your reference point, your clients will always be treated fairly and professionally.
Why on earth should I need to know how to fix a deep fryer or ice machine in order to quote a 25 year old residential blower motor, while pointing out that the furnace has a 25 year old inducer, board and gas valve; and consideration towards replacing the system might be warranted before other major components fail? How proven do you have to be to change a blower motor? How much time and skill does it take to realize the board is not passing power to an inducer, ignitor or blower? How long does it take to replace a board? Child’s play…all of it.
We are simply trained to do it safely and with a timely parts infrastructure. Granted, every once in a while we catch a weird one – but 90% of the time it’s pretty routine and does not require that much “proving.” However it should always demand consideration of the customer’s long term interests - not just our short term repair receipts and stoked pride because we made something really old rise from the dead.
I don’t feel particularly smart, super skilled or experienced when I replace a thirty year old fan/limit switch in a grossly oversized and inefficient barn burner.. Conversely, I feel kind of silly. And responsible. My saving grace is always the knowledge that it was not my recommendation. I am a reasonably competent residential service tech. As such, it behooves me to inform my customers of all their options.
Now…I know what you truly meant by “sales techs” and I assure you I am not. However, in some cases, repairing old equipment can be equally as irresponsible as replacing parts that don’t need to be replaced. I have never informed a customer that their equipment could not be fixed. Not even a grounded compressor or cracked heat exchanger. And nearly every single time they arrive at replacement before I do, knowing very well how old their system is…hearing the furnace slightly concussing on in the middle of the night, the condenser whining rhythmically for years.
Balance. And ultimately, we will be the ones that determine whether there is balance or not.
02-09-2013, 04:12 PM #94
I have to differ with you, my friend.
You are correct when you opine that a tech has to seek approval for a repair. But that is not what we are talking a bout, or, at least that is not what I am talking about.
A "sales tech" is a guy with only rudimentary skills who is given a mandate to earn his pay by selling. That is what commission-base sales are all about. It's like being a car salesman. Sure, sometimes someone needs to buy a car, BUT, when you take your car in for service, the last thing you expect is to hear your mechanic say, "that car is ten years old. I have a new car available, and I can get you into it tomorrow."
That's the difference.
...and it is who you work for that detemines where there will be balance, or only a sale.
02-09-2013, 07:14 PM #95Professional Member*
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02-10-2013, 10:55 AM #96
Which (appropriately, I believe) distills this issue to one of personal responsibility and individual integrity. I still believe most folks tends towards honesty, and will gravitate to a fair climate when able. So even though they might land at a sales culture outfit; they will either leave that environment when they feel adequately trained or, as in my case, simply resist it while still demonstrating a value to the organization simply by being a competent and honest tech. My boss will at times grudgingly admit that our customers respond quite favorably to my patient, realistic and thorough explanation of all their options. Without a doubt, in many instances he would have much preferred I left with a signed contract and down payment. As Tiger Man alludes to, when they are ready for new equipment they will call us and feel good about it.
02-10-2013, 12:34 PM #97
Then you can work for the one that has an opening, IF you get hired.
So, while what you said IS true, it is tempered by the reality of the employment relationship being a two-way street, ultimately controlled by the needs of the owner.
Now, few of us can simply decide to not work until the employer with the correct moral/ethical business model has an opening, and decides that we might be the one who is the best hire.
So, while balance IS possible, it is not truly within our own control, until WE become the owner.
So, as employee techs, the balance is controlled by the person(s) for whom we labor. And for that reason, leadership in great service must come from the owners, and be influenced by us all.
02-11-2013, 08:35 PM #98Regular Guest
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your so right.its not about time its about the quality and workmanship.i got a nephew who works for a big company in corpis tx their top tech gets $19.00 an hr but the company service rate is compatible to the north east union rates of $95. to $133. an hour wow talking about making a killing on labor.
02-12-2013, 09:02 PM #99
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02-12-2013, 10:59 PM #101
Personally myself, do not care for these emerging nu skool resi and retail service organizations, who are concerned with regional dominance and never ending growth, more so than actually doing real air conditioning work.
They are found with all sorts of techno fluff and sub contractors, instant electronic job reports complete with digital images, and global positioning based payroll.
IMO, wrenches and oil go nicely with a service ticket hand written and even the occasional smudge. Kinda makes the customer feel like they are dealing with a genuine mechanic.
Also, as others have said, the idea that one segment of our trade is superior to another, is ignorant and probably stated by someone suffering from a low self esteem. Whether a man cleans window shakers at seedy hotels, keeps ice cream cabinets running steady, overhauls industrial machinery, or makes people comfortable in their homes, they are all a part of our industry and respectable jobs.
I say the really good tradesmen are the ones who do their best on every job, and won't discount one because it lacks flash and profile.
02-12-2013, 11:07 PM #102Professional Member*
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02-12-2013, 11:54 PM #103
A legit company with $20/hr technicians billing $100/hr for repairs wouldn't be able to keep its doors open without the markup on the parts associated with those $100/hr repairs.If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.
02-13-2013, 08:27 AM #104
Agreed. Companys gotta pay for gas, auto insurance, maintance on that fleet, liability insurance for the business, lights, water, phones, and other little things that pop up