Next refrigerant to replace 404a

[Helioson]

Anyone hearing any scuttlebut on this? Any info would be generously accepted, thanks!

[VTP99]

Last I heard 404a was considered a long term refrigerant.

[ryan1088]

Of course they would get rid of it, it's a good widely used refrigerant. Only makes sense to get rid of it.

On a serious note, I had heard some rumblings about that but I have no solid info.

[VTP99]

[QUOTE=ryan1088;15051411]Of course they would get rid of it, it's a good widely used refrigerant. Only makes sense to get rid of it.


Did the patent run out ? Oh ya that was DuPont sorry.

[ryan1088]

[QUOTE=VTP99;15051461]

Of course they would get rid of it, it's a good widely used refrigerant. Only makes sense to get rid of it.


Did the patent run out ? Oh ya that was DuPont sorry.

Or admit how toxic it is to the ozone...where have we heard that before? Ha!

[Helioson]

I heard they are targeting it in Europe because it has a high GWP (global warming potential). I had the question posed by a produce warehouse customer who has an aging R22 skid that blew a 1 3/8 discharge vibrasorb this fall. Lost 1100 lbs of R22 and wasn't real happy. I am trying to sell him on R404A but he's afraid the same will happen as R22. I figure that about 6 months after I get him to install the R404A unit, the EPA will announce their terminate date. DuPont has a spy watching me.

[matt1124]

Lost 1100 lbs of R22 and wasn't real happy.

[mjm88]

I heard they are targeting it in Europe because it has a high GWP (global warming potential). I had the question posed by a produce warehouse customer who has an aging R22 skid that blew a 1 3/8 discharge vibrasorb this fall. Lost 1100 lbs of R22 and wasn't real happy. I am trying to sell him on R404A but he's afraid the same will happen as R22. I figure that about 6 months after I get him to install the R404A unit, the EPA will announce their terminate date. DuPont has a spy watching me.

I've heard the same thing about it being phased out due to high GWP ratings a few months ago by a local supplier

[VTP99]

I've heard the same thing about it being phased out due to high GWP ratings a few months ago by a local supplier

If they come up with one more refrigerant for stock on my truck !!!!!!!!!

[mjm88]

Haha we'll have to start pulling trailers

[Phase Loss]

R407F is the future!

I know people will tell ya it's 407A & 407C.

But 407F is the bees knees.

[skpkey9]

404 does have a phase out date can't remember when it is , but when I get to my office I will post it....

[coldjoe]

Yes r407f starting to be put into medium temp racks here .R407A ,C & F all made up of the same 3 gases just different percentages (R32,R125,R134A)