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    How many of you guys are preppers? The paranoia seems to be running pretty high.


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    I would not call it paranoia, I would say some have their eyes open to what may lay ahead. Do I think that this current administration has an plan to enslave us, no. But what happens in 10-20 years. Just because our current politicians may not abuse absolute power (assuming we follow England or AU's lead) is no gaurantee that those in the furture will not. Absolute power corrupts. That has been shown in history time and again. Dependency and complacency are also just as bad. It is not strictly about guns, it is about the American way of life. We are as great as we are because we did not follow the norm.

    Anyway, enough rambling. Everyone has to do what they feel is right so that is what I will do. I think the most important thing is to teach my kids what the school doesn't. You are will not get a trophy just for trying. Fairness is a fairytale. Question everything.

    Here is a really great video that all kids should watch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwhip View Post
    This is only part of a United Nations plan drafted in 1961.

    United Nations disarmament agenda.....right cheer >>>>
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...41248874,d.dmQ
    Funny you are so easy to deceive. Have you read U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE DEPARTMENT OF STATE PUBLICATION 7277? Nothing in it about arms of the general population, it is about the war machine that states poses.


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    In order to make possible the achievement of that goal, the program sets forth the following specific objectives toward which nations should direct their efforts:

    The disbanding of all national armed forces and the prohibition of their reestablishment in any form whatsoever other than those required to preserve internal order and for contributions to a United Nations Peace Force;
    The elimination from national arsenals of all armaments, including all weapons of mass destruction and the means for their delivery, other than those required for a United Nations Peace Force and for maintaining internal order;
    The institution of effective means for the enforcement of international agreements, for the settlement of disputes, and for the maintenance of peace in accordance with the principles of the United Nations;
    The establishment and effective operation of an International Disarmament Organization within the framework of the United Nations to insure compliance at all times with all disarmament obligations.
    http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/arms/freedom_war.html
    Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. —Mark Twain

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    http://www.jonchristianryter.com/2005/053105.htmlThe authors of the Kennedy plan—or rather, the Council on Foreign Relations plan since that is where the disarmament agenda was born—were CFR members Dean Rusk, Kennedy's Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara and presidential advisors John McCloy and Robert Lovett. McCloy would be appointed to head the newly created US Arms Control and Disarmament Agency the following year. Lovett was offered his choice of cabinet positions in the Kennedy Administration and reportedly turned all of them down. He preferred the role of invisible advisor. In that capacity, Lovett handpicked most of those who became the inner circle of both the Kennedy and Johnson Administrations.Banning the private ownership of guns in America became the unspoken agenda of Congress even though since 1968 legislators on both sides of the aisle insisted that their intent was never to ban the private ownership of guns but simply to regulate them to make sure that guns didn't get in the hands of criminals



    The intention is not to deceive,when the info is right there in front of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the mojo View Post
    http://www.jonchristianryter.com/2005/053105.htmlThe authors of the Kennedy plan—or rather, the Council on Foreign Relations plan since that is where the disarmament agenda was born—were CFR members Dean Rusk, Kennedy's Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara and presidential advisors John McCloy and Robert Lovett. McCloy would be appointed to head the newly created US Arms Control and Disarmament Agency the following year. Lovett was offered his choice of cabinet positions in the Kennedy Administration and reportedly turned all of them down. He preferred the role of invisible advisor. In that capacity, Lovett handpicked most of those who became the inner circle of both the Kennedy and Johnson Administrations.Banning the private ownership of guns in America became the unspoken agenda of Congress even though since 1968 legislators on both sides of the aisle insisted that their intent was never to ban the private ownership of guns but simply to regulate them to make sure that guns didn't get in the hands of criminals



    The intention is not to deceive,when the info is right there in front of you.
    If you quote an article, actually your whole post other than the last line, you really should wrap it in the Quote box, to do otherwise just implies you did lot of thinking and put it down as words.


    Now as far as the intent is not to deceive but it is right in front of us, well I find that hard to see from the Stat Department publication. As far as the web page that you quoted and their version of events, I guess if it is on the Web it must be true.
    Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. —Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    If you quote an article, actually your whole post other than the last line, you really should wrap it in the Quote box, to do otherwise just implies you did lot of thinking and put it down as words.


    Now as far as the intent is not to deceive but it is right in front of us, well I find that hard to see from the Stat Department publication. As far as the web page that you quoted and their version of events, I guess if it is on the Web it must be true.
    Printer you post on a generic document,from the State Department is just that,without the intention of its underlined tone.
    Your a smart guy track back Lovett,he married into Wall St. And yes Wall St. did on more than one time helped finance the communist.

    Then on the other hand refer to Eisenhowers speach on the build up and damage a military industrial complex can cause.And our foreign policy that continues to this day.

    You have to stand in the middle sometimes and examine both sides.

    Now everyone get back to watching Honey Boo Boo,and American Idol everything will be just hunky dory.
    FEN

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mojo View Post
    Printer you post on a generic document,from the State Department is just that,without the intention of its underlined tone.
    Your a smart guy track back Lovett,he married into Wall St. And yes Wall St. did on more than one time helped finance the communist.

    Then on the other hand refer to Eisenhowers speach on the build up and damage a military industrial complex can cause.And our foreign policy that continues to this day.

    You have to stand in the middle sometimes and examine both sides.

    Now everyone get back to watching Honey Boo Boo,and American Idol everything will be just hunky dory.
    The document states exactly its intent. The writers were scared crapless of a world where any country could acquire nuclear weapons and that the buildup of arms may end life on earth. With assured nuclear destruction that we lived under during the cold war the view we need to step back from the path we were on.
    Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. —Mark Twain

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