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    I've seen charge compensators in JCI products (York, Luxaire, Coleman and JCI), Rheem brands, Goodman/Amana brands etc.

    All they are is a cannister with the suction/hot gas discharge line running through it and a branch off of the liquid line feeding the shell of the canister. In cooling mode, the large line running through the charge compensator gets cold and condenses the refrigerant fed by the liquid line so that the cannister fills up with liquid refrigerant, taking that much refrigerant out or the system. In heat mode, the large line going through the charge compensator is hot, boiling off liquid refrigerant in the compensator and forcing it into the system.
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    I know what you are talking about now RoBoTeq, you've pretty much described what me and everybody else I've worked with and went to school with calls an accumulator. In fact the the description you gave reads almost like the description for an accumulator for a heat pump out of my old textbook. It never called it a charge compensator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clifpaul View Post
    I know what you are talking about now RoBoTeq, you've pretty much described what me and everybody else I've worked with and went to school with calls an accumulator. In fact the the description you gave reads almost like the description for an accumulator for a heat pump out of my old textbook. It never called it a charge compensator.
    Not even close. Completely different device.

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    Guess I got myself mixed up.But at least I learned something...
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    My apoligies for the lousy picture posting btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clifpaul View Post
    My apoligies for the lousy picture posting btw.
    That's a better pic than anything I've found so far.
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    Thanks. I learned something myself since I didn't know there was a difference.

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    Here is a pretty good pic showing the difference between a compensator and an accumulator.


    Don't know why pic did not show but here is the link. http://www.cwis.net/~mallie/CompensatorSS.bmp
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    Good conversation guys. Learned a couple things.

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    Last used in the 90's. Back when Robo had big hair and tall shoes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by energy star View Post
    Last used in the 90's. Back when Robo had big hair and tall shoes!
    LOL! What makes you think RoBo doesn't still have big hair? Well, maybe not as big, but it still covers all of my head. And the only tall shoes I ever wore were boots.

    As for charge compensators, they are still out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBKold View Post
    Don't forget its still just a refrigeration system.
    Exactly !!

    It makes my skin crawl, when someone claims that you can't "properly" charge a heat pump system in the winter....

    If you can't charge a heat pump in the winter, how do you charge a wine display in a liquor store at any point in the year?

    That's the difference between guys with "knowledge" and guys with "understanding"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by clifpaul View Post
    X@. I've seen accumulators, but I've never seen or heard of a charge compensator til now.
    Paul, next time you look at an old Rheem heat pump indoor coil, you might notice a "chunk of copper" about 1-3/8 inches in diameter along the side of the coil. That is one type of compensator. Newer units have them in the outside unit. Often on Rheems, they are blue in color.
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