Replywhat is 'purple stuff'....for that matter, what is 'red stuff'?
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I dare you, post one of yours!
Ok, so I did this... why? I was replacing B-I-L's compressor in Tucson and thought to myself that I should not heat the check valve on the exit port of the Copeland scroll compressor using my swirl jet torch... After all it was 110F in the shade that day. I didn't bring the oxy/acetylene rig with the number 0 torch tip that does such pinpoint precision brazing. Sooooo, I used the purple stuff in my tool bag to connect the high pressure tubing. Then when I went to Johnstone a couple of days later I noticed that their stuff was RED!!! not PURPLE!!! The stuff in my tool bag was old and it lasted about a week before this photo arrived on my cell phone from upset B-I-L. I hurried back down to Tucson with the right torch kit and some tubing and a flare tool and twelve pounds of R22 and some oil to (fit, braze, leak test, evac, charge) make things right.
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what is 'purple stuff'....for that matter, what is 'red stuff'?
"Right" is not the same as "Wise".
Don't step on my favorite part of the Constitution just to point out your favorite part.
Just because you can measure it, doesn't mean it is important. Just because you can't measure it, doesn't mean it isn't important.
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Newbies!
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This stuff, and I've used it with fantastic results on several units that I installed (compressors) in 2009. The problem was with using it in 2010 when it had been in my truck tool bag for about 8 months too long.
Originally Posted by jayguy
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How old are you? I've been doing HVAC repairs for 35 years.
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is this a joke? you seriously use this stuff? im not trying to be a jerk here but i can't imagine using glue to repair a refer circuit. on the other hand if this stuff works i am all ears!
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Bought some Friday and it is purple straight out of bottle. Do not use on soft copper. I use it for copper drain lines on RTUs. So so results on refrigerant lines probably due to me and not product.
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drain lines fine.
I've seen this product before.
I will openly say this:
If you have to use a solvent bond for a refrigerant circuit you are either 2 things. Extremely inexperienced and you should not be in your own van, or your a hack.
Either one, your call.
I've whipped out my turbo torch and thrown fire up in finished walls, brazed in compressors, whatever. I've only been in the trade for 8 years, never had an uncontrolled fire.
I don't have a problem with someone using it for a drain line. Thats just a speed thing for non-pressurized piping, no harm there.
"Better tell the sandman to stay away, because we're gonna be workin on this one all night."
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"Just get it done son."
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i have been in the business for over 20 years...i don't use glue. i braze so i didn't know what it was. i have heard of it, but it seemed a little too 'home depot/kindergarten' for me. i know what color it is now...red is new...purple is old. thanks!
i love this line from their website: NOTE: The I. D. of couplings and fittings must be 0.010 inch larger than the O. D. of the tubing being bonded for a proper bond.
i am sure the product works ok on brand new, never-been-used-before type of copper but i wonder how well it works in the field where there is a little bit of oil you don't see or some debris...stuff like that.
"Right" is not the same as "Wise".
Don't step on my favorite part of the Constitution just to point out your favorite part.
Just because you can measure it, doesn't mean it is important. Just because you can't measure it, doesn't mean it isn't important.
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It seems like I remember another thread about this a while back. Stuff was red, joints held for a few months and blew apart.
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doing it that long and still admit to using "purple stuff" on a scroll discharge line????????
i have been at it for over 40 years and would not even think of gluing a discharge line together.
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I used this a few times on drain lines worked like a charm.
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What did you use the flare tool for?I hurried back down to Tucson with the right torch kit and some tubing and a flare tool
You can't learn a thing with your mouth open.
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Yes I have used this product on two different installs where all joints were accessible in case of failure. One is six years old with no leaks. Iknow this because I
do regular service on the system. The second leaked within a few months so I brazed all joints to avoid future problems. Both customers knew they were guinea pigs.
As far as inexperienced goes, I installed my first duct system in 1983.
As for the hack comment, I like to think I am openminded enough to try something new to test for myself. If it fails, I stand behind it and learn from the experience.
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Thanks grkmano for the confirmation that I'm not the only one to ever try this stuff. BTW I tried it because Johnstone Supply gave me a bottle at their open house party. If some of you may have read my profile, I do have a bachelors degree in chemistry and there is plenty of evidence to support that this product WORKS AS DESIGNED. My post on this wall of shame is because I openly admit that the I used a product that had gotten old and discolored. It was purple instead of red when I applied it. No other failures have ever occurred and it is consistently hotter here in Phoenix than just about anywhere. Of course I have torches, mentioned before, and I use them regularly. So why all the bragging about you have used torches guys? Have you ever tried NEW THINGS? I run into this all the time, old farts that know it all and haven't learned anything since high school. Think before you post, you may not be so smart as you think you are.
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Used for fitting tubing of the same size together. Pretty handy for this and I can't really think why you would ask unless there's some other usage I'm not aware of yet.
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My bad, the "flaring" tool is also a "swaging" tool and I was swaging, not flaring.
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Im just wondering if you would ever use it again ?
Theres no effing way I would glue any part of refrigeration.... now I have used Solder on suction lines ....
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Then you ought to know better than to use snake oil.
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I dont understand the idea is snake oil unless you disprove it or know enough about chemistry to have a reasonable doubt. I am old school (with an open mind). I am 51 years old. We live in a world with many advancements that sounded impossible years ago.
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