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  1. #14
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    @ Ductfisher - 8.8 IWC inlet, nat gas 24V across coil.

  2. #15
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    Thanks for the replys, I will pick up a valve in the AM

  3. #16
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    If your safeties are holding steady all the way thru to the HSI being energized (the pressure switch is the only one likely to drop out and cause issues at the beginning of a cycle, the rest would not permit any action at all), you have 24 volts across the gas valve for a couple seconds until trial for ignition fails, you hear no click of the valve, or even if it clicks (or chatters) and you smell no gas...

    90% of the time it's a bad valve. Just make sure you have gas service. Ignore goofy low voltage readings, they serve no purpose unless you are in controls.

    Not exactly a RSES SAM...but it's been my experience.

  4. #17
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    Great info... I made up a test 24v. Transformer.ext. cord to 115v / two jumper wires. Eliminates quessing board wiring! I have seen 24v to valve,but if its not grounded thru another switch it "wont" open! Note; clicking of valve is not always accurate either..Goodmans latest bulletin states both Hi And Low side power is needed to open gas valve in two stage models.an auditable noise is no longer a true test!

  5. #18
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    I have had two calls this year same thing.H.S.I would glow but NOT lite the Nat. Gas. I now always test with an open flame "Torch". Repositioning HSI...,or replacement have been my remedy.But to be honest...,not sure why! No call backs yet!

  6. #19
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    [QUOTE=Cosmicmuffin;14933661] I now always test with an open flame "Torch".

    Yes...This is a very good test to fool the board and check your gas valve. I would try this if you have not yet. Keep us posted with the outcome.

  7. #20
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    [QUOTE=VTP99;14937501]
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicmuffin View Post
    I now always test with an open flame "Torch".

    Yes...This is a very good test to fool the board and check your gas valve. I would try this if you have not yet. Keep us posted with the outcome.
    Surely you jest...

  8. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtinhvac View Post

    Surely you jest...
    Nope....serious as a heart attack !

  9. #22
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    Ever check if that 16v was comin outta the board?

  10. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    Nope....serious as a heart attack !
    {sigh}

  11. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtinhvac View Post
    {sigh}
    I also sometimes do this to bleed the air from the line if I had to open it for a repairs. Just last night I started up a 12 ton Carrier RTU. I had no air in the line up to the shut off valve. So the only trapped air was from that point to the burner. It took about 10 times of letting it work the air out before it lite. I was just getting ready to get my torch when it finally hit. Had I had my torch handy it would have been one time.

  12. #25
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    Modern digital volt meters use very little current. (loading the circuit)

    Have you ohmed the gas valve coil? Open or bad winding would not load the GV circuit enough to bring voltage to zero.

  13. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    Had I had my torch handy it would have been one time.
    Got that right...one and done.

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