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    Govt statistics as to what kills folks

    From a retired military guy... follows gun stuff:

    "What we are hearing from bloviating gun control advocates in America is nothing short of emotionally driven irrationality.


    According to statistics assembled from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Center for Disease Control and the Federal Government, firearms related homicides are minuscule in comparison to other the other “big killers” in the United States.
    If we look at homicide statistics in the United States it’s clear that more murders are committed with knives, bats, hammers and poisons than with firearms. As Kurt Nimmo recently noted, “ the number of murders committed annually with hammers and clubs far outpaces the number of murders committed with a rifle.”
    The facts, not the drivel being spewed by the anti-gun propaganda machine, leave us wondering why some State and Federal lawmakers are so adamant about restricting the sale and ownership of handguns and rifles, especially since the majority of gun owners – close to 99% – have never committed a violent crime in their lives, let alone used a gun to do so.
    Here is the chart they never want you to see:

    Ten big killers in the USA:
    Tobacco: 529,000
    Medical errors: 195,000
    Unintentional injuries: 118,021
    Alcohol abuse: 107,400
    Motor vehicle accidents: 34,485
    Unintentional poisonings: 31,758
    Drug abuse: 25,500
    Unintentional falls: 24,792
    'Non-firearm' homicides 18,799
    Firearm homicides: 11,493


    The chart above proves that politicians and those who would disarm Americans by going so far as to call for a repeal of the 2nd Amendment have ulterior motives – or they’re completely ignorant of the facts.
    Perhaps their goal is to trigger a revolution in an effort to implement a total police state over the American people.
    It wouldn’t be the first time that a government has tried something like this."
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    Americans are too docile a people to participate in any sort of revolution.

    I mean seriously..... If the government seeks to disarm america.....all they got to do is make a law where people must bring their weapons down to the sheriffs office by such and such a date.... and the vast majority of americans would comply....then return home and go on the net and talk of revolution....

    Americans have already been disarmed.... their brains have already been turned into mush.....they have no will power anymore...... no drive.....

    Look at our society today....we are nothing but a bunch of complainers and talkers......there isnt a "doer" among us......
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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    Americans are too docile a people to participate in any sort of revolution.

    I mean seriously..... If the government seeks to disarm america.....all they got to do is make a law where people must bring their weapons down to the sheriffs office by such and such a date.... and the vast majority of americans would comply....then return home and go on the net and talk of revolution....

    Americans have already been disarmed.... their brains have already been turned into mush.....they have no will power anymore...... no drive.....

    Look at our society today....we are nothing but a bunch of complainers and talkers......there isnt a "doer" among us......
    Well I can agree that years of socialist / communist indoctrination in our socialist controlled public educational system backed up by the far left controlled news media. They have done their job well in brainwashing a good percent of our citizens especially women and minorities. But most folks who haven't gone too deep into drugs still have a mind and there is hope for them to see the light. Thank you, thank you very much
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    Your statistics forgot to include ABORTION !
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    Quote Originally Posted by cehs View Post
    Your statistics forgot to include ABORTION !
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    And obesity!

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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    Americans are too docile a people to participate in any sort of revolution.

    I mean seriously..... If the government seeks to disarm america.....all they got to do is make a law where people must bring their weapons down to the sheriffs office by such and such a date.... and the vast majority of americans would comply....then return home and go on the net and talk of revolution....

    Americans have already been disarmed.... their brains have already been turned into mush.....they have no will power anymore...... no drive.....

    Look at our society today....we are nothing but a bunch of complainers and talkers......there isnt a "doer" among us......
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    Quote Originally Posted by cehs View Post
    Your statistics forgot to include ABORTION !
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrammel View Post
    And obesity!
    I agree... Abortion is a HUGE form of killing/murder... and the worst part is; it is legal.

    The point of starting this thread was to note guns used as a tool to kill by criminals is small potatoes compared to things we take for granted.
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    Which in the following list are accidental/life choices and which are the result of armed violence?

    Ten big killers in the USA:
    Tobacco: 529,000.......................accidental/life choice
    Medical errors: 195,000................accidental/life choice
    Unintentional injuries: 118,021.......accidental/life choice
    Alcohol abuse: 107,400................accidental/life choice
    Motor vehicle accidents: 34,485....accidental/life choice
    Unintentional poisonings: 31,758....accidental/life choice
    Drug abuse: 25,500.....................accidental/life choice
    Unintentional falls: 24,792............accidental/life choice
    'Non-firearm' homicides 18,799......accidental/life choice
    Firearm homicides: 11,493............armed violence
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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    Which in the following list are accidental/life choices and which are the result of armed violence?

    Ten big killers in the USA:
    Tobacco: 529,000.......................accidental/life choice
    Medical errors: 195,000................accidental/life choice
    Unintentional injuries: 118,021.......accidental/life choice
    Alcohol abuse: 107,400................accidental/life choice
    Motor vehicle accidents: 34,485....accidental/life choice
    Unintentional poisonings: 31,758....accidental/life choice
    Drug abuse: 25,500.....................accidental/life choice
    Unintentional falls: 24,792............accidental/life choice
    'Non-firearm' homicides 18,799......accidental/life choice
    Firearm homicides: 11,493............armed violence

    If the firearm homicide is the result of someone defending them self then that is a life choice of the attacker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    Which in the following list are accidental/life choices and which are the result of armed violence?

    Ten big killers in the USA:
    Tobacco: 529,000.......................accidental/life choice
    Medical errors: 195,000................accidental/life choice
    Unintentional injuries: 118,021.......accidental/life choice
    Alcohol abuse: 107,400................accidental/life choice
    Motor vehicle accidents: 34,485....accidental/life choice
    Unintentional poisonings: 31,758....accidental/life choice
    Drug abuse: 25,500.....................accidental/life choice
    Unintentional falls: 24,792............accidental/life choice
    'Non-firearm' homicides 18,799......accidental/life choice
    Firearm homicides: 11,493............armed violence
    why are non-firearm homicides accidental, but the same act w/ gun is armed violence? If I run policeman down w/car its called assault w/ deadly weapon, isn't it?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billygoat22 View Post
    why are non-firearm homicides accidental, but the same act w/ gun is armed violence? If I run policeman down w/car its called assault w/ deadly weapon, isn't it?.
    Printer is just an instigator... he gets his jollies playing god at H-talk.

    The best place for Printer is on ignore...
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