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    R22 phaseout

    I've read up on the phaseout. So the EPA is already a couple years behind in implementing the actual reduction in production/imports cut backs, right? Has there been a "set in stone" reduction for 2013? I hear a lot of speculation at our favorite supply house (they are saying 40% or so reduction coming this year), but has the EPA actually come out with a number? Anyone care to speculate on a % price increase for 2013?

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    It did a little more than double in price for my area last year alone, unless you took advantage of certain distributors specials on "Buy a dry R-22 unit and get a jug of gas for $xxx." I assume it will increase by at least as much dollar-wise if not percentage wise this year.

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    If the price doubles again this year it's going to be priced out of the market regardless of production levels!

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    Question...

    Is there going to be an official drop in replacement for R-22? perhaps Eventually?

    I am studying for my universal EPA and as of last friday was advised that according to EPA there will be no replacement.

    Any thoughts on this? or is this something i shouldnt worry about knowing as of yet?

    Thanks

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    Local distributor prices for R-22 are 3 times what they were two years ago.
    “I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”
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    R-22 replacements.... There are several, none are capable of topping up a system that still has R-22 in it. All have some loss of system capacity of at least 5%. Some require you to change the oil from mineral oil to POE oil. Some guys are looking for the holy grail of being able to top up an R-22 system with another refrigerant. Not gonna happen in my opinion.
    “I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”
    ― Benjamin Franklin

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    Great info. Thanks for that.
    I will keep watching this thread in order to keep in the loop.

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    Is that some spam above or what?

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    Anybody else use a reclaim machine? We have a Van Steenburgh that is putting on some age now; I actually wore the first one out.

    http://www.vansteenburghengr.com/_index.php

    Vicki in Phoenix

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