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    Hmm, where should we put the starter? Here!

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    It is the new unit mounted panels.

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    Who pissed off the sparkies??? I think they got the last laugh.

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    Nice! That will be a fun overhaul to do some day! NOT
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    Quote Originally Posted by FixItRight View Post
    It is the new unit mounted panels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FixItRight View Post
    It is the new unit mounted panels.
    This would be funny, but a unit-mounted AFD starter is factory installed on the chiller in practically the same exact position. Or at least it was about 3-4 years ago. I had to go over the top and slide down behind the starter to check vane linkage on initial startup. It is so wide that it stretches almost to the control panel like this one. Couldn't believe it ...

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    They wanted to eliminate the voltage drop on a long wire run beteen the starter and the chiller
    Good luck trying an overhaul on that .
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    You are correct Nuclrchiller the unit mounted AFD starters are huge but very easy to remove and create tons of room to work in an overhaul situation .
    The 64 roars to life Whoo hoo ...shes a rolling chassis .
    You bend em" I"ll mend em" !!!!!!!
    I"m not a service tech.. I"m a thermodynamic transfer analyst & strategic system sustainability specialist
    Best Austin Healey In Show twice in 2013 .....All those hrs paid off .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Healey Nut View Post
    You are correct Nuclrchiller the unit mounted AFD starters are huge but very easy to remove and create tons of room to work in an overhaul situation .
    I don't have to worry about that now, anyway. That particular startup was far from home, and I never did have a reason to return. It was in North Carolina, near the coast. To this day it is the only Trane with AFD that I have personally seen. And I remember there was no cell phone reception on site. Yep, just the ideal conditions for my first and only startup on a AFD machine! At least I had a few days notice that gave me time to download everything I could find on it. Trane's on-line support with e-Library is awsome! And I thought Eagle was dang near magic!

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    Trane's on-line support with e-Library is awsome! And I thought Eagle was dang near magic!

    What is Eagle?
    Besides a national icon..

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    Quote Originally Posted by milkyway View Post
    Trane's on-line support with e-Library is awsome! And I thought Eagle was dang near magic!

    What is Eagle?
    Besides a national icon..
    If my memory is correct, Eagle was a set of CD's that had (almost) all Trane literature on it. Seems like about 100 CD's in a case, with 1 added every few months as more new literature was published and more older stuff was transferred to CD. These CD's could only be read on a computer with proprietary software, with an abbreviated version available to non-Trane people. It was more convenient than carrying around all the paper copies of IOM's and service bulletins, but the e-library is even more so. You had to update Eagle regularily, and keeping up with the CD's was a bit of a pain. If you didn't update, you would get locked out, and getting back in was a pain. Plus an old fashioned index was used (on the "update" CD), which was a pain. It involved "shuffling" CD's in and out of your computer. But it still beat paper copies. Oh, and it's obsolete now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Healey Nut View Post
    You are correct Nuclrchiller the unit mounted AFD starters are huge but very easy to remove and create tons of room to work in an overhaul situation .
    Good luck telling the customer they have to drop the 2000# VFD to repair the leaking 2nd or 3rd stage tang operator bellows. lol
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    Job security ? With an ouch--
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