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    Hmm, where should we put the starter? Here!

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    It is the new unit mounted panels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FixItRight View Post
    It is the new unit mounted panels.

    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by FixItRight View Post
    It is the new unit mounted panels.
    This would be funny, but a unit-mounted AFD starter is factory installed on the chiller in practically the same exact position. Or at least it was about 3-4 years ago. I had to go over the top and slide down behind the starter to check vane linkage on initial startup. It is so wide that it stretches almost to the control panel like this one. Couldn't believe it ...

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    You are correct Nuclrchiller the unit mounted AFD starters are huge but very easy to remove and create tons of room to work in an overhaul situation .
    The 64 roars to life Whoo hoo ...shes a rolling chassis .
    You bend em" I"ll mend em" !!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Healey Nut View Post
    You are correct Nuclrchiller the unit mounted AFD starters are huge but very easy to remove and create tons of room to work in an overhaul situation .
    I don't have to worry about that now, anyway. That particular startup was far from home, and I never did have a reason to return. It was in North Carolina, near the coast. To this day it is the only Trane with AFD that I have personally seen. And I remember there was no cell phone reception on site. Yep, just the ideal conditions for my first and only startup on a AFD machine! At least I had a few days notice that gave me time to download everything I could find on it. Trane's on-line support with e-Library is awsome! And I thought Eagle was dang near magic!

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    Trane's on-line support with e-Library is awsome! And I thought Eagle was dang near magic!

    What is Eagle?
    Besides a national icon..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Healey Nut View Post
    You are correct Nuclrchiller the unit mounted AFD starters are huge but very easy to remove and create tons of room to work in an overhaul situation .
    Good luck telling the customer they have to drop the 2000# VFD to repair the leaking 2nd or 3rd stage tang operator bellows. lol
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    Job security ? With an ouch--
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech Rob View Post
    Good luck telling the customer they have to drop the 2000# VFD to repair the leaking 2nd or 3rd stage tang operator bellows. lol
    Theres enough room to get in and do that as long as your not 350lbs . you could do an overhaul without removing the VFD as well if you had the height and or you could lift the pieces off over the condenser bundle . All depends on the install , but removing the VFD is easy its just very heavy on the big chillers .
    The 64 roars to life Whoo hoo ...shes a rolling chassis .
    You bend em" I"ll mend em" !!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech Rob View Post
    Good luck telling the customer they have to drop the 2000# VFD to repair the leaking 2nd or 3rd stage tang operator bellows. lol
    "it's an easy repair".

    "Then why does it cost $5k and take 2 guys, 3 days. Whay are there truck for our electrical contractor here?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclrchiller View Post
    This would be funny, but a unit-mounted AFD starter is factory installed on the chiller in practically the same exact position. Or at least it was about 3-4 years ago. I had to go over the top and slide down behind the starter to check vane linkage on initial startup. It is so wide that it stretches almost to the control panel like this one. Couldn't believe it ...
    Doing startup on a 1080 with an AFD like that this week... They are selling them like crazy in my district.
    "There is no greater inequality than the equal treatment of unequals."

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    Who pissed off the sparkies??? I think they got the last laugh.

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