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  1. #27
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    I tried to go union but I was not able to convince myself that everything I had learned to that point was pointless and they were not able to look at me as a skilled person. They set the wage in my area , bless the Local 60# you have my full support...next round is on YOU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    ..........Any idea what is required in terms of education and and experience to be a CEO?
    Not much if it's Yahoo. You just lie about your education and credentials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    Bottom line, union or not. Educate yourself and work hard. You will reap the rewards this trade has to offer.
    This idea is KEY.

    Whether you are a tech, or a teacher, or whatever, the most pertinent idea is how you command your personal "ship."

    I just finished up two weeks of vacation. Did I go skiing? No.

    Here's what I did:

    1) acquired a pre-certification class CD to learn about a java-based control interface that speaks to multiple language HVAC systems

    2) Started an Algebra review online

    3) Started a beginner's Calculus course online

    4) took a couple of days of service calls because the nearest guy has to travel two hours to get to these sites in my area.

    I did this because you have to take personal responsibility for yourself and your craft, your intellect, and your life. Obama isn't going to send the secretary of education to do it for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooked View Post
    Not much if it's Yahoo. You just lie about your education and credentials.
    You have to think about the context of "tech," or the sector known as "silicon valley."

    These are the guys that thought they were going to tear down the walls of American business. Jeans instead of suits, etc, etc. It is no surprise that they thought that it was okay to lie about things they thought were absurd requirements.

    In point of fact, in order to be a CEO in demand today, you must be highly educated, skilled, and connected to the business world. No one from an average walk of life could just step into such a position because of some obtuse notion of political or social "fairness."

    You are only worth what you can earn from customers or those others who pay your salary. This is not controlled by being a member of some social or financial strata in life, like the absurd idea of a "rich boys club," no, it is because of what these particular rich boys can do for the companies they lead. Yes, they are smart enough to have contracts that allow them to get paid even if the company does not succeed, but if companies did not agree to those contracts, none of the pool of available CEOs would go to work for them.


    If you do work under a union contract, you can do some research, and find that your pension fund is invested in companies led by CEOs that make millions of dollars, while some of their workers make minimum wage.

    In BOTH cases, the wage earned is what the MARKET determines the worker is worth, either tens of millions a year, or a few dollars an hour.

    Most of what you earn is up to you, and how you increase your own worth.
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